410's in auto with ls1 power
Re: 410's in auto with ls1 power
Do you currently have 2.73's?
If you want to know what it'll be like on the highway with 4.10's, drive in 3rd gear. The RPM's are "almost" exactly what they are w/4.10's in 4th gear
.
I know what your concern is. I had 3.73's in my car a couple years ago, and I got smoked by a Cobra on the highway from an ~80 mph roll. Problem was, when I punched it from that speed, the converter would un-lock, but the tranny wouldn't downshift to 3rd
.
What I learned since with my car, and after putting the 4.10's in last summer (2004) is that you have to MANUALLY DOWNSHIFT above certain speeds, otherwise the tranny won't on its own, and you're stuck in the gear you're in.
FWIW, I raced my buddy's '97 Z28 M6 (all stock, but he ran 13.7 @ 100 in the 1/4 mile) on the highway, from a ~75 - 80 mph roll, and absolutely walked away from him. He knows how to drive and which gear to pick too, not like losing was his fault.
You can see in my sig the difference the gears made at the track for me. BUT, if you want a highway "rocket" but with better acceleration off the line, maybe stick with the 2.73's but get a converter. I'm planning on getting one even with the 4.10's (the car STILL bogs off the line!
).
EDIT: if you lose to a Honda on the highway, you suck!
I've raced a couple quick ones, and they're never very competitive above ~120 mph. You can always pace them at ~3/4 throttle, then put it to the floor and take off on them ... fun stuff!
If you want to know what it'll be like on the highway with 4.10's, drive in 3rd gear. The RPM's are "almost" exactly what they are w/4.10's in 4th gearI know what your concern is. I had 3.73's in my car a couple years ago, and I got smoked by a Cobra on the highway from an ~80 mph roll. Problem was, when I punched it from that speed, the converter would un-lock, but the tranny wouldn't downshift to 3rd
.What I learned since with my car, and after putting the 4.10's in last summer (2004) is that you have to MANUALLY DOWNSHIFT above certain speeds, otherwise the tranny won't on its own, and you're stuck in the gear you're in.
FWIW, I raced my buddy's '97 Z28 M6 (all stock, but he ran 13.7 @ 100 in the 1/4 mile) on the highway, from a ~75 - 80 mph roll, and absolutely walked away from him. He knows how to drive and which gear to pick too, not like losing was his fault.
You can see in my sig the difference the gears made at the track for me. BUT, if you want a highway "rocket" but with better acceleration off the line, maybe stick with the 2.73's but get a converter. I'm planning on getting one even with the 4.10's (the car STILL bogs off the line!
).EDIT: if you lose to a Honda on the highway, you suck!
I've raced a couple quick ones, and they're never very competitive above ~120 mph. You can always pace them at ~3/4 throttle, then put it to the floor and take off on them ... fun stuff!
Last edited by Capn Pete; Dec 22, 2005 at 09:05 AM.
Re: 410's in auto with ls1 power
Originally Posted by quicksix956
Well lets say I have 410's and a ls1 that has 273 or 323 comes up to me and we go from a 65 or 70 roll is he going to eat me?
. If you're running an LT1 against an LS1 though, I don't think gears will save you
. Like I said, I ran my buddy's LT1 M6 from ~75 - 80 and walked away. M6's rob less power to turn, my A4 robs more power, yet I still had him. I guarantee you the results would have looked identical even if I had 2.73's (at that speed, the tranny drops to 2nd gear!
).
Re: 410's in auto with ls1 power
IMO, tall gears are overrated. Obviously 2.73's and such are going to put a hurt on the fun you're going to have, but 4.10's are a bit over the top. again IMO, the only time you need 4.10s with an auto is if you have a dedicated track car. 3.73's seem to be a good auto gear for something with good mods. 3.42's even pull like mad on cars with good mods. Unless you setup really really needs 4.10's, why bother with the loss of gas mileage and top end pull?
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