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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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2 thumbs up for GM gears

I installed a set of genuine GM 4.10 gears last week. They're completely quiet on the drive side and very little whine on the coast side. Maybe a thousandth or 2 difference on pinion depth would get zero whine. They are 2 cut gears and call for .004" backlash. Anyone wanting a better chance of no whine, get GM.

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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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Re: 2 thumbs up for GM gears

So are they the motive gears? where did you buy them from? Are you happy with the gains from them?
Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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Re: 2 thumbs up for GM gears

I got them from New Era. They were on sale for $169, but I don't see them listed now, and Master installation kit on sale for $70. The gears came in a Motive box but had GM OE written on the side. The pinion also had markings on the face just like the factory 3.42s I took out. I have a set of Motive gears and they are different. They compliment my cam well. About a 3.90 gear ratio would have worked well also but I don't think I'd want to go as low as 3.73 or any higher than 4.10.

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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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So have you installed the motive gears? what are your opinions on them?

thunderracing has motive 4:10's with install kit including wheel bearings, Fluids,TA girdle w/ stud kit for 435$ which i think is a hell of a deal cause if you add everything up individually, its well over 500$ and add another 18$ to the 435$ for a soild pinion spacer which is reccomended to help from the gears moving around since the crush sleeve will eventually wear out

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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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Re: 2 thumbs up for GM gears

Motives are probably fine but make sure whether they have 2 cut or 5 cut gears. The pattern they make is different and if you try to get a 5 cut pattern on a 2 cut gear, it'll never work. I was trying to get the wrong pattern on my Motives and they whined. I then ordered the GM gears which came with different instructions than the Motives came with and I learned that I was trying to set up the Motives wrong. Now I have an almost new set of Motives for paper weights. I guess if my GM gears ever go out, I've got an extra set.

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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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Re: 2 thumbs up for GM gears

Originally Posted by ktg
Motives are probably fine but make sure whether they have 2 cut or 5 cut gears. The pattern they make is different and if you try to get a 5 cut pattern on a 2 cut gear, it'll never work. I was trying to get the wrong pattern on my Motives and they whined. I then ordered the GM gears which came with different instructions than the Motives came with and I learned that I was trying to set up the Motives wrong. Now I have an almost new set of Motives for paper weights. I guess if my GM gears ever go out, I've got an extra set.
hmm not really sure what you are talking about on the 2 or 5 cuts
Old Apr 14, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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Re: 2 thumbs up for GM gears

Here's the jist of it: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/4013/re.html
Also, the tooth height on a 2 cut gear is the same at the heel and the toe.
The height is different from the heel to the toe on a 5 cut gear.
Old Apr 14, 2005 | 11:53 PM
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Re: 2 thumbs up for GM gears

ktg what kinda tires/wheels do u have and are u getting any traction with the new gears? (sorry if its a little off topic)

i'm installing the same cam that u have and thinking about 4:10s for my 10-bolt.i figure i can stay w/ my 10-bolt as long as i don't go for big tires and hard launches.
Old Apr 15, 2005 | 09:23 AM
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Re: 2 thumbs up for GM gears

I'm running 18" Smoothies II with Pirelli PZero Nero M&S 245/40R18s. I've been taking it easy but I haven't spun a tire yet.
Old Apr 16, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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Re: 2 thumbs up for GM gears

Originally Posted by ktg
Here's the jist of it: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/4013/re.html
Also, the tooth height on a 2 cut gear is the same at the heel and the toe.
The height is different from the heel to the toe on a 5 cut gear.
on that webpage it says to add 2 bottles of Gm posi additive...i thought it was only one bottle? what happens when you add two bottles?
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