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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 09:44 PM
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Has anyone tried running tires larger than the 28x10.5Wx15?

Also does anyone have pics of what they had to do to get these tires in the wheel well?

I have 28x12.50x15 ET Streets on the car right now, but I plan to put a new pair of shoes on next year.

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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 06:57 AM
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We put a pair of 28x13.5 ET Streets on a friends 93, his pics are lost somewhere on his hard drive..
Had to cut a piece of the frame support next to the spring, massive hammer assist on front lower, inner fender (approx. 1 to 1-1/2"), and a pie cut on the rear quarter panel, starting at the bottom about 1-1/2" back and going up

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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 07:12 AM
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I have the 28" x 12.5" x 15" on mine. They fit fine except for the lower rear of the 1/4 panel where a quick hacksaw cut fixed the problem. My outside fenders were already flared slightly. My rims have 6.5" backspace so I had no internal clearance issues.

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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 08:50 AM
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Baxter once had 28x14.5 hoosiers
Old Sep 12, 2002 | 09:35 AM
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I'll try to pull the harddrive out of my old computer, put it in the new computer this evening, and get some pics up of the fenderwells clearanced for 28 x 13.5 x 15 ET Streets.

Wicked has mentioned in an earlier post that the hoosier 13.5s fit the stock fenderwell and that he only had to clearance the bumper cover for tire height.
http://web.camaross.com/bb/Forum8/HTML/005431.html
He further added that the Hoosier 13.5 has 1" less section width than the 13.5 in a Mickey, but retained the same 11" footprint. He also mentioned that the 14.5 Hoosier has the same section width as the 13.5 Mickey, while providing a 12" footprint. So in theory, the fenderwells that I've clearance for the 13.5 Mickey's should hold a set of 14.5 Hoosiers.

Anyways mine are clearanced for everyday street use and light cornering with the 13.5 ET streets. I'll try to chase up the pics and have them posted in the next day or two, unless someone else out there has some.

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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 01:43 AM
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Speedmiser finally got his hard drive to regurgitate the pics... I have them on my tech page at
http://camaroz28.cardomain.com/id/techstuff

look at page 6, I still have some more specifics to add, but you will get the general drift

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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 12:12 PM
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Very nice stuff there fellas thanks.

I already have 28x12.50x15 ET Streets on the car now and it doesn't rub anywhere.

I am going to a 28x10.5W or a 29x10.5W next season and I was wondering if I would need to clearance things anymore?

I would think that a 28x10.5W would fit no problem. I wonder if the extra height of the 29" tire might throw things off?

Old Sep 13, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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I can't see 29's (if they are are true 29" OD) fitting in the wheel openings. Buddy of mine had to open up the front and back of the fender opening to fit 29's. My 28" QTP's are already hitting on the edges of the wheel opening when they grow at the end of the track. I moved the axle back a little so they will "clearance" the rubber bumper cover, rather than hit the sheetmetal on the quarter panel.

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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 12:46 PM
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Why do you feel the need to go bigger than 10.5Ws? There's 10.5W cars going low-mid 7s. Hell, there's true 10.5 tire cars going high 7s.
I'd suggest getting the suspension right instead of usin the band-aid of bigger tires.

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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by cASe SenSiTive:
There's 10.5W cars going low-mid 7s. Hell, there's true 10.5 tire cars going high 7s.
I'd suggest getting the suspension right instead of usin the band-aid of bigger tires.
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True, but at the level most of us are looking at we can only go so far on a Stock Style Torque Arm Suspension. The Mustangs so famous in Super Street Outlaw on True 10.5s are on a Stock Style Suspension, but keep in mind they have a "Pseudo" 4-Link, with Upper and Lower Control Arms. The Oulaw 10.5 and NSCA Super Streeters on the 10.5W's? Most of use would rather hammer the wheelwell abit then Purchase a $50k+ 25.1 Certified Backhalf Chassis Car.

Don't get me wrong. There are two sides to the coin. Unless you're already getting into the 1.3x 60' range then there is probably alot you can do for the suspension already if you're using the typical 26/28 x 10.5/11.5/13.5

BTW, Who makes a 28x10.5W? I know Hoosier doesn't, don't believe M/T does, maybe Goodyear?



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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 02:42 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by cASe SenSiTive:
Why do you feel the need to go bigger than 10.5Ws? There's 10.5W cars going low-mid 7s. Hell, there's true 10.5 tire cars going high 7s.
I'd suggest getting the suspension right instead of usin the band-aid of bigger tires.

JMHO

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by KTamez:
True, but at the level most of us are looking at we can only go so far on a Stock Style Torque Arm Suspension. The Mustangs so famous in Super Street Outlaw on True 10.5s are on a Stock Style Suspension, but keep in mind they have a "Pseudo" 4-Link, with Upper and Lower Control Arms. The Oulaw 10.5 and NSCA Super Streeters on the 10.5W's? Most of use would rather hammer the wheelwell abit then Purchase a $50k+ 25.1 Certified Backhalf Chassis Car.

Don't get me wrong. There are two sides to the coin. Unless you're already getting into the 1.3x 60' range then there is probably alot you can do for the suspension already if you're using the typical 26/28 x 10.5/11.5/13.5

BTW, Who makes a 28x10.5W? I know Hoosier doesn't, don't believe M/T does, maybe Goodyear?

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Hey, not all of us have trailer queens I hooked fine at the track on salad shooters and 11.5 x 16 ET streets. It's quite a different animal hooking on the street with that same tire and a big shot of juice out of the hole, on sufuraces from grooved contrete to slick blacktops.

Besides, the fatties just look BA

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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 07:29 PM
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There are several Stock Eliminator cars getting 1.3's. Thats with a stock style rear suspension and nine inch rear tires. The torque arm rear suspension kicks the crap out of a factory style four link any day.

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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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Daren,

Show me a Stock Style, Torque Arm Suspension car that has gone 7.80s on true 10.5" tires, THEN I'll be impressed.

There's multiple Mustangs that have already dipped into the 7 second range on Stock Style Suspension.



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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 11:38 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by KTamez:
.....BTW, Who makes a 28x10.5W? I know Hoosier doesn't, don't believe M/T does, maybe Goodyear?
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M/T make a 28x10.5-15W ET Drag. Pretty sure that's what George B. ran his 9.04 on last year.

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Kurtis,

I know that you are very big on this "fastest" car stuff. How many of the guys on your list have a four link?
What is keeping these guys from stepping up and running against the Mustangs? If you want I can ask Gene (Fulton) for you?
As a side note, in 1987 Buick decided to go with a torque arm on the GNX instead of a four link. I wonder why?
Oh, at least one Stocker should have been on your 20 fastest list (9 inch tires, stock bore(+.060?)/stroke (+.015?), Stocker suspension).
And, I will be very inpressed when your street car runs in the nines, really.

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