For those in the 10's...Suspension mods?
Originally posted by GreenbeanZ28
Best 60 ft of 1.51 on 26x11.5 16 inch ET streets with a BMR K member, BMR rear swaybar, Lakewood panhard rod, Mac torque arm. Stock springs/shocks/control arms, no subframes or roll cage.
Best 60 ft of 1.51 on 26x11.5 16 inch ET streets with a BMR K member, BMR rear swaybar, Lakewood panhard rod, Mac torque arm. Stock springs/shocks/control arms, no subframes or roll cage.
I remember you from the GMHTP bolt-on shootout. Guess what?...I finally got headers...LOL, and a cam, and some heads, etc. etc. etc. I got bit pretty good by that "racing bug". Oh well, no more "bolt-on" racing for me.
Thanks for the suspension list.
Frank
Originally posted by 12SCNDZ
Hey Russ,
I remember you from the GMHTP bolt-on shootout. Guess what?...I finally got headers...LOL, and a cam, and some heads, etc. etc. etc. I got bit pretty good by that "racing bug". Oh well, no more "bolt-on" racing for me.
Thanks for the suspension list.
Frank
Hey Russ,
I remember you from the GMHTP bolt-on shootout. Guess what?...I finally got headers...LOL, and a cam, and some heads, etc. etc. etc. I got bit pretty good by that "racing bug". Oh well, no more "bolt-on" racing for me.
Thanks for the suspension list.
Frank
Suspension mods I have are: 6 point cage, BMR stb, lca (boxed), sub connectors, panhard bar, Spohn torque arm. Still running the stock shocks with 75,000 miles on them and a 28 inch tire I have cut mostly low 1.6s and a few high 1.5s on the sixty.
I agree with the other guy if you are going to spray try to get down to a 3.73 or 3.42 gear or go with the 28" tire. If not you will run out of gear at the top end of the track. When I had the 26" ET streets the best 60 I had was mid 1.7s but this was also with the stock torque arm.
Best times to date are 11.69 @120 on the 26" tire and stock torque arm this is N/A. Best on the spray is 10.66 @ 132 and this is with the Spohn installed and on 28" Drags.
Glenn
I agree with the other guy if you are going to spray try to get down to a 3.73 or 3.42 gear or go with the 28" tire. If not you will run out of gear at the top end of the track. When I had the 26" ET streets the best 60 I had was mid 1.7s but this was also with the stock torque arm.
Best times to date are 11.69 @120 on the 26" tire and stock torque arm this is N/A. Best on the spray is 10.66 @ 132 and this is with the Spohn installed and on 28" Drags.
Glenn
Are all of you that are claiming 4.10's are too much still running a 4 speed transmission? I was crossing the line at 5800 RPMs in 3rd gear with the stock motor and 4.10's. Wouldn't it stand to reason that with the new combo and nitrous I can simply utilize 4th gear?
Frank
Frank
I wouldn't trust the a4 in 4 th gear with that power level. I don't think the clutches will be able to hold that type of power in 4th gear. Besides, it will kill your gear transition going into 4th at the end...it is too tall of a gear. I have 4.11s in my car and redline at 6800rpm's....right now I'm going through the traps at 6300-6400rpm's running 118.83mph traps with 26x11.5 E.T. streets. I just got my NX S.H.O. kit and plan to run a 250-300 shot on my car but before I do that I will have to put a 29.5" tall tire to kill the gear in order to not run out of gear at the end of the track. With a 28.2" tall tire I could probalby run a 200 shot (estimated 133-134 traps) without running out of gear at the end. If I were you I would estimate your planned mph and your planned max rpm and put the biggest tire on the car you can and gear it so you are going through the traps around your max rpm. Remember taller tires will hook a lot better than smaller diameter tires.
Later
Matt
P.S.-- Do a search for online gear calculations and play with the numbers in a gear calculator to choose different combos.
Later
Matt
P.S.-- Do a search for online gear calculations and play with the numbers in a gear calculator to choose different combos.
Anyone that has a fear of what a 700 or 4L60E will hold should have someone who knows what they're doing build it. Pure and simple...Everyone thinks throwing a "Trans-Slop" shift kit in will solve all the A4's problems...That particular kit actually makes the transmission self destruct.
When I build a racing 700/4L60E I address the weak points, such as pressure AND holding power. Holding power is increased by adding surfuce area to a clutch, band, or what applies it. How many people have a "wide" 2-4 band in their A4's? How many people have a Sonnax "oversised" 4th servo apply piston? How many people have (7) Raybestos "Blue" 3-4 frictions...The stock 700/4L60E only holds (6). How many people have the knowledge to know to take the "load release springs" out of the 3-4 clutch pack? How many people know what a heavier Art Carr, or Sonnax slide spring does?
In an A4 ANY external shift kit is like putting a Ban-Aid on a bullet wound.
The only point I'm trying to make is, don't underestimate an A4 until you have the right person build it.
Frank
When I build a racing 700/4L60E I address the weak points, such as pressure AND holding power. Holding power is increased by adding surfuce area to a clutch, band, or what applies it. How many people have a "wide" 2-4 band in their A4's? How many people have a Sonnax "oversised" 4th servo apply piston? How many people have (7) Raybestos "Blue" 3-4 frictions...The stock 700/4L60E only holds (6). How many people have the knowledge to know to take the "load release springs" out of the 3-4 clutch pack? How many people know what a heavier Art Carr, or Sonnax slide spring does?
In an A4 ANY external shift kit is like putting a Ban-Aid on a bullet wound.
The only point I'm trying to make is, don't underestimate an A4 until you have the right person build it.
Frank
You can gain...
additional/usuable 3rd gear RPM by having the clutch lock in third gear. You are looking at about 300 rpm drop once the clutch engages. I ran a 50 shot, locked in third with 28" Hoosiers, 4.56 gear, to right around 6400-6500 in the traps.
I have now went back to a 4.10 gear to not torture the engine through the traps. I lost about 600 rpm by doing this. The key is... get the converter to lock. You will be pleasently suprised as to the extra kick you get. You can then MPH with M6 cars!
I have now went back to a 4.10 gear to not torture the engine through the traps. I lost about 600 rpm by doing this. The key is... get the converter to lock. You will be pleasently suprised as to the extra kick you get. You can then MPH with M6 cars!
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