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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 07:25 AM
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Angry ET Streets - Can't get them to hook!!!

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Yesterday I could finally make some test'n'tune runs on my new 26x10.5x16 ET Streets. Dammit, I was very dissapointed
I can't get them to hook better than my street tires!!! WTF??!
First, I tried to run them at 17psi. No hook, it just spins like crazy. Looking at the burnout, it leaves just two narrow black stripes with the edge of the tire, it looks like the center of the tire isn't contacting the pavement.
So I tried 20psi, it's the same. I tried 24 psi and even 12psi, but I get the same results. It spins like a ****!

Guys, please help!
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 07:42 AM
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try doing a john force style burnout and see if it heats them enough. you should have no problem with ET streets.

i have heard of some people having to do a huge burnout before they would actually break-in.
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 09:04 AM
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I tried a 6 sec burnout, but nothing worked. I might try to heat them a bit longer...
Oh, I forgot to say that we run here on completely UNTREATED/UNPREPPED pavement! I've read somewhere, that these tires will only work on prepped roads...

Should I do a dry burnout or in the waterbox?
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by aggiez28
are you running on a road or a track???
It's an event held at the main straight of a road course. (like sears point, so just regular asphalt)

What do you think?
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by HungryT/A
It's an event held at the main straight of a road course. (like sears point, so just regular asphalt)

What do you think?
I think you should get a couple gallons of VHT and do your burnout in that Directions should be on the jug, or their web site.
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 12:29 PM
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Part of the problem may be the size you selected. The 26x10.5x16 has a tread width of just 8.4". You'd have been better off with an 11.5, which has ~1.5" wider tread. Regardless, you should certainly hook better than with street tires. What are your 60' comparisons and how are you launching? What mods, gears, and tranny are you running?

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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 03:17 PM
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I agree with Rich in that you might need a wider tire, but; I ran at our local airport, just a small community airstrip tarmac only no concrete launch pad, no prep. This was basically an organized street race thging. We ran 1/8 mile with lights that once you see any light you went, no tree just light GO!!!

I run 27x11.50.15 Hoosier QTP's. I could not get a good hook out of my tires on this type of track either.

Track prep is crucial for a good hook. Also helps to know your car and drive within your traction limits.

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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 07:54 AM
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on an unprepped street type surface you will get better traction from Drag Radials than Slicks. Drag radials are made to grab ahold of the uneven and rough surface of a road, where Slicks are made for a smooth surface that hs been well prepped.
Old Sep 5, 2003 | 01:03 AM
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Thanks guys for your replies!
I think I learned the hard way that ET Streets are not for unprepped surfaces...
Anyway, I'll play around with tire pressure at the weekend, and will try the mega burnout thing

Again, thanks for your input!
Old Sep 5, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by '95 z-28/ '00 montepace
on an unprepped street type surface you will get better traction from Drag Radials than Slicks. Drag radials are made to grab ahold of the uneven and rough surface of a road, where Slicks are made for a smooth surface that hs been well prepped.
I dont agree. I've ran both drag radials and ET street on my salad shooters, and both sets saw quite a bit of streetracing. Hands down, the ETs hooked better. The softer compound, larger surface area, and softer sidewall, is going to allow the ET street to hook better in almost all drag racing situations - street or strip.
Old Sep 5, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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I fyou have tubes in your e.t. streets and have them screwed to the rim, you can take them down to around 7 or 8 pounds of air. I've ran e.t. streets on a prepped surface and an unprepped surface, and had no problems either way. Also, deffinetley try the huge burnout thing. If the surface your racing on is asphault, good luck, when asphault gets hot it gets real slippery. Good luck in your quest for traction.

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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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just a suggestion, but maybe you could go to a real track.
Old Sep 6, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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I ordered a pair of tubes and a line lock, they should arrive next week. Then I'll go out and play a bit

There are no prepped tracks here in middle europe! There's one in Hockenheim and the other is Santa Pod Raceway in England. A bit too far from me
Old Sep 6, 2003 | 03:51 PM
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oh, didn't know that. that sucks a fat one.
Old Sep 8, 2003 | 07:03 AM
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Yeah without a properly prepped surface you might as well forget it. As for the 10.5 vs 11.5's... wwith the mods you have listed the 10.5's should have plenty enough grip. But not on a plain old road. Your only alternative is to get more tire under the car. The more the better you will be. But as already stated the best you can do is head for another track, or suffer with traction problems.
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