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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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More timing that what is commanded?

Ok guys, I have a slight problem. What would cause the computer to add more timing that what is commanded at WOT? This is on a boosted LT1 car. It seems like it's adding timing when the MAF maxes out. It jumps from say 20 degrees commanded to 24-25 degrees as read on a Tech 2 scanner. It does this right about 5000-5100 rpm. The IAT table is set to where it will not add timing based on temp, only take away.

This is all the info that I can think of right now, let me know if you have any other questions for me I'll try to answer them.

Thanks for your help!
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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Every LT1 I've ever logged has shown more timing on the scanner than what is in the table. Usally between 2 and 4 degrees. No one seems to know why. I read somewhere once that it might have to do with advance ground into the cam. Not saying that is the cause, just one theory I read. I also read that if you mark the balancer and install a timing pointer and check it with a timing light it will be dead on what is in the table.
Old Mar 20, 2008 | 12:13 AM
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You can look at your logs and at the tables, I believe there is a thread you can search, after 3000 rpm the pcm starts adding it's something like this:

3000 +1*
4000 +2*
5000 +3*
6000 +4*

etc.. something along those lines
Old Mar 20, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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Thanks guys!
Old Mar 20, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bunker
You can look at your logs and at the tables, I believe there is a thread you can search, after 3000 rpm the pcm starts adding it's something like this:

3000 +1*
4000 +2*
5000 +3*
6000 +4*

etc.. something along those lines
Agreed. I have a car set to have 37 degrees od total timing but when i scan it its getting like 40.
Old Mar 20, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bunker
You can look at your logs and at the tables, I believe there is a thread you can search, after 3000 rpm the pcm starts adding it's something like this:

3000 +1*
4000 +2*
5000 +3*
6000 +4*

etc.. something along those lines
yeah the PE adds the extra timing
Old Mar 20, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AHARTZ28
yeah the PE adds the extra timing
wow that is retarded
Old Mar 24, 2008 | 05:11 AM
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I have kind of a simliar problem, I'm getting the usual several degrees advance all over the place, but at WOT it defaults to 26 degrees timing everytime even though I have tried to command as low as 12 degrees. My minimum spark advance is turned down to 8 degrees timing also so it's not that table. I know engineermike had this problem also.
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