Hardest Hitting 10"?
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Originally posted by 96ssz28#395
I would say that the MA Audio Kore 10 will smoke every sub talked about on here it will hold 10,000 watts peak power and 5,000 watts continous. Given the right enclouser size with lots of power will flat do some damage. check them out at. www.maaudio.com trust me i have done car audio stuff for over 10 years.This is one of the if not the hardest hitting and loudest subs you will hear today. and there 12`s and 15`s in Kore`s are straight insane.you might find a hard time getting them but are well worth the wait for them.
I would say that the MA Audio Kore 10 will smoke every sub talked about on here it will hold 10,000 watts peak power and 5,000 watts continous. Given the right enclouser size with lots of power will flat do some damage. check them out at. www.maaudio.com trust me i have done car audio stuff for over 10 years.This is one of the if not the hardest hitting and loudest subs you will hear today. and there 12`s and 15`s in Kore`s are straight insane.you might find a hard time getting them but are well worth the wait for them.
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Originally posted by 96ssz28#395
Yes they do actually make 10`s and 12`s in the kore line up. In fact yes i am very up to date on all the products talked about here. Including some not mentioned in this post.As a U.S.A.C. Offical judge. This past year i would say that the Kore Line up has much.In terms of bang for your buck. to offer. The down fall being you need a very high powered very low ohm capabile amp with very clean power. like a U.S.amps or even MA`s own amps. Although U.S. amps has a much better T.H.D. rate.Everyone has there own personal prefrance. As to what they like best.This is just what i personaly have noticed in this years U.S.A.C. shows last year it was Mattis and JL next year.It will be someone elese as it always is.My advise to the member wanting a hard hitting 10. Is go out and look at all that is out there for your best needs.Do not just jump at the one thing that a car audio sales person trys to sell you. As you may find that something half the price will suit your needs much better. good luck in whatever you deside. Thanks For Your Time. Mike...
Yes they do actually make 10`s and 12`s in the kore line up. In fact yes i am very up to date on all the products talked about here. Including some not mentioned in this post.As a U.S.A.C. Offical judge. This past year i would say that the Kore Line up has much.In terms of bang for your buck. to offer. The down fall being you need a very high powered very low ohm capabile amp with very clean power. like a U.S.amps or even MA`s own amps. Although U.S. amps has a much better T.H.D. rate.Everyone has there own personal prefrance. As to what they like best.This is just what i personaly have noticed in this years U.S.A.C. shows last year it was Mattis and JL next year.It will be someone elese as it always is.My advise to the member wanting a hard hitting 10. Is go out and look at all that is out there for your best needs.Do not just jump at the one thing that a car audio sales person trys to sell you. As you may find that something half the price will suit your needs much better. good luck in whatever you deside. Thanks For Your Time. Mike...
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Originally posted by 96ssz28#395
The reason why 10 and 12 Kore`s are not listed on the web site. Is because it has not been updated yet. Also the Kore line up is still a realatively new line.Look for it in the updated site due anytime. Also select authrized MA Audio dealers will have the info you are looking for. I can tell you first hand that i have personally seen the Kore 12`s take over 4,500 watts of power.To each driver and Loven every bit of it. As for the THD comment. Everyone knows the cleaner the signal. through out the whole system the better it is reproduced. Case in point U.S. amps has one of the best T.H.D. rates out there.0.009 T.H.D.Which makes Kore`s and U.S. Amps a good combo. As most amps that can produce the power needed to make the Kore`s work as designed. Have a high T.H.D. rate.Thus sound quality will suffer along with over all performance. With loads of power to boot. In U.S.Amps with most of there entry level amps being 1 ohm stable.Also a great many that can take 1/4 even 1/8th ohm loads.In my oppion would make this a great combo.The down fall is Price wise they are to expensive for most. But are top of the line type amp`s for pro or consumer even entry level performers. Thanks For Your Time. Mike...
The reason why 10 and 12 Kore`s are not listed on the web site. Is because it has not been updated yet. Also the Kore line up is still a realatively new line.Look for it in the updated site due anytime. Also select authrized MA Audio dealers will have the info you are looking for. I can tell you first hand that i have personally seen the Kore 12`s take over 4,500 watts of power.To each driver and Loven every bit of it. As for the THD comment. Everyone knows the cleaner the signal. through out the whole system the better it is reproduced. Case in point U.S. amps has one of the best T.H.D. rates out there.0.009 T.H.D.Which makes Kore`s and U.S. Amps a good combo. As most amps that can produce the power needed to make the Kore`s work as designed. Have a high T.H.D. rate.Thus sound quality will suffer along with over all performance. With loads of power to boot. In U.S.Amps with most of there entry level amps being 1 ohm stable.Also a great many that can take 1/4 even 1/8th ohm loads.In my oppion would make this a great combo.The down fall is Price wise they are to expensive for most. But are top of the line type amp`s for pro or consumer even entry level performers. Thanks For Your Time. Mike...
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Originally posted by 96ssz28#395
Please read again if you did not understand and as said in your own statment. Subs have a greater rate of T.H.D. As much as 5 to 10% trust me unless you just don`t have an ear for it you will hear distortion at that level.Also note that T.H.D. can happen at all levels of the spectrum from 20 to 20,000Khz which is all most humans are able to hear anyway not just one set bar note.as noted in the web page you have shown. So i would say that web page is very missleading to people. Distortion at high power levels.Can even cause small and large driver failure in the voice coils or spider area.I also believe that you may misunderstand what points i am trying to point out here. Because there is a very fine line between SPL vechiles and sound quality vechiles. Which has a much greater stage area in imageing such as heigth and width. The real competition such as the ones you see in U.S.A.C. Try there very best to meet that fine line. All in all. You are either one or the other.I would suggest you go to your local Autherized Ma Audio dealer or just E-mail Ma Audio for accurate Q and xmas questions for the Kore line up Thanks For Your Time........ Mike..
Please read again if you did not understand and as said in your own statment. Subs have a greater rate of T.H.D. As much as 5 to 10% trust me unless you just don`t have an ear for it you will hear distortion at that level.Also note that T.H.D. can happen at all levels of the spectrum from 20 to 20,000Khz which is all most humans are able to hear anyway not just one set bar note.as noted in the web page you have shown. So i would say that web page is very missleading to people. Distortion at high power levels.Can even cause small and large driver failure in the voice coils or spider area.I also believe that you may misunderstand what points i am trying to point out here. Because there is a very fine line between SPL vechiles and sound quality vechiles. Which has a much greater stage area in imageing such as heigth and width. The real competition such as the ones you see in U.S.A.C. Try there very best to meet that fine line. All in all. You are either one or the other.I would suggest you go to your local Autherized Ma Audio dealer or just E-mail Ma Audio for accurate Q and xmas questions for the Kore line up Thanks For Your Time........ Mike..
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Originally posted by 96ssz28#395
I do believe you need to first know WTF. You are talking about.As your so called buddy MR. Clark Said himself nothing below 3%. But as you stated in a past post here. Through the Subs this will increase to More Than 10% very easy and being the most of your power from the amps is High power usage or current draw from your subs or the amp it self. You most likely will hear this on a low end amp. Like Your Buddy MR Clark Says As Well.Also let`s not forget him saying that you want to make sure that you have a amp that dose not run out of steam in the upper power levels. Which means try to get a amp that can do this efficently. thus strong signal, clear signal, and try to keep the T.H.D. to a min. This is why i was talking about such amps as the U.S. Amps line up. They are able to give you loads of power at a very low ohm load. Meaning 1 ohm and lower. With a very low T.H.D. Rate. So stop trying to turn my post around to say what you want them to. Open your mind up guy there are products out there that will blow you away. and some people have never even heard of them. As i was trying to openly let this guy who posted this thread know to look at all options before deciding what to get.Don`t just jump at the first thing a car audio sales rep wants to throw at you. Thanks For Your Time. Mike.
I do believe you need to first know WTF. You are talking about.As your so called buddy MR. Clark Said himself nothing below 3%. But as you stated in a past post here. Through the Subs this will increase to More Than 10% very easy and being the most of your power from the amps is High power usage or current draw from your subs or the amp it self. You most likely will hear this on a low end amp. Like Your Buddy MR Clark Says As Well.Also let`s not forget him saying that you want to make sure that you have a amp that dose not run out of steam in the upper power levels. Which means try to get a amp that can do this efficently. thus strong signal, clear signal, and try to keep the T.H.D. to a min. This is why i was talking about such amps as the U.S. Amps line up. They are able to give you loads of power at a very low ohm load. Meaning 1 ohm and lower. With a very low T.H.D. Rate. So stop trying to turn my post around to say what you want them to. Open your mind up guy there are products out there that will blow you away. and some people have never even heard of them. As i was trying to openly let this guy who posted this thread know to look at all options before deciding what to get.Don`t just jump at the first thing a car audio sales rep wants to throw at you. Thanks For Your Time. Mike.
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x7x7 seems that most of your oppions are from hear say and mag quotes. Not proven real world compatation facts.Like i have personaly seen and had to judge myself. At a real world U.S.A.C. meets.Just face the fact my oppion differs from yours and leave it at that. Thanks For Your Time....... Mike.
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What have I said that wasn't right? I stated all the facts.
FACT: you will NOT hear an audible difference between an amp with a THD rating of .009 vs. a THD of .1 unless either amp is driven to clipping.
FACT: THD ratings have NOTHING to do with spider problems unless the amp is severly clipped in which case THD ratings are way higher.
FACT: Many amplifiers are 1 ohm stable.
I never said USAmps were ****ty, they do make quality products. I didn't even say that the kore sub was ****ty, it just has less displacement than the brahma.
I'm just pointing out that your technical knowledge is lacking.
Anyway, this is my last reply. There's no point in replying to you if you don't understand what I'm saying.
FACT: you will NOT hear an audible difference between an amp with a THD rating of .009 vs. a THD of .1 unless either amp is driven to clipping.
FACT: THD ratings have NOTHING to do with spider problems unless the amp is severly clipped in which case THD ratings are way higher.
FACT: Many amplifiers are 1 ohm stable.
I never said USAmps were ****ty, they do make quality products. I didn't even say that the kore sub was ****ty, it just has less displacement than the brahma.
I'm just pointing out that your technical knowledge is lacking.
Anyway, this is my last reply. There's no point in replying to you if you don't understand what I'm saying.
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Yes I do totally understand what you are trying to say.Fact is i disagree with what you are saying. On the main subject i was refering to which was. Subs and Amps to power them. Fact. This is where most of the amplafied power in a car audio system is consumed. Fact.This is also where the highest levels of T.H.D. Can come from.Fact. It is very easy to have more than 10% T.H.D. In This Area of the system. Fact.This can be heard at that level.Fact. Even more so from a low end Amp. Fact.This was the reason why i even mentioned U.S.Amps as they can give you loads of power at a very low T.H.D. Rate.Fact.In high power systems. Higher levels of T.H.D. can occure. In the Sub area at such a rate as to even cause Sub failure. Fact. Such as burnt voice coils or torn spiders.I have seen this happen many times at U.S.A.C. meets.x7x7 just face facts your oppions are not the only ones.As i stated before my oppions are differant from yours. Leave it at that. Thanks For Your Time. Mike.
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haha its funny how the guys on this site are sooo much more mature then the rest of the web i post on about 3 other msg boards besides this one (non-car related) and they all fight like cats and dogs what happened above is about the nastiest it gets here at camaroz28.com props guys for being adults about disagreements lol
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