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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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Another Bose question

Ok all, I have a 95 Z28 with the factory bose system. The head unit is on it's way out (trouble ejecting CD's) and the only speakers that work are the passenger side front and the one in the hatch. Now I have searched but still some questions are unanswered. I understand that the two rear speakers in the sail panel are the "subs" and provide the bass correct? So they shouldn't have words coming out from them right? So the only sounds come from the two fronts and the one in the hatch? Now here is my question. Instead of buying all new speakers and rewiring EVERYTHING, can I just get two new speakers for the fronts (obviously will have to rewire those) with a new head unit and call it good? Will the rear speakers all still work? I am not sure if the rear sail panel speakers are working but I do get plenty of bass, could this be coming from the hatch speaker though? I also heard that it is unnecessary to put speakers into the sail panels because the fronts will provide enough sound. Is this right?

To recap, can I buy two new speakers for the front doors, a new head unit, and still have the rear speakers all work? Will I still need the adapter from crutchfield? Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks all.
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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You will still need the adapter. The only speaker that's just bass is the one in the hatch. If your speakers aren't working, it could be an amp problem or a HU problem. You could get your new HU, speakers and adapter to see if that works. If it doesn't then you should rewire everything. Some people will say the new speakers won't work, but mine work fine with an aftermarket HU.
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...highlight=bose

That is where someone said the hatch speaker was a full range speaker and the two in the rear were for mid-bass.

Anyway, with a new head unit and two new front speakers, and leaving everything else the same with the bose, it should work? So I will still get sound coming from the rear hatch speaker and bass from the others? Right now I get sound from the rear hatch speaker and it seems like the bass is coming from the two back ones. Also, what HU do people recommend? I don't want to spend a fortune on this stuff, but I want something that can be ipod compatible. Any good speakers I should be looking for? What size are the anyway? This should still sound better than what I have now correct? I am not a HUGE music guy, I just want a reliable CD player and sound from all my speakers. The bass I have now is fine for me, I just need to know if I will still get the same function out of my hatch speaker and my sail panel speakers with a HU and front speaker change. Thanks for you help seawolf.
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RedRocketZ28
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...highlight=bose

That is where someone said the hatch speaker was a full range speaker and the two in the rear were for mid-bass.
That is correct.

As far as cheaper reliable HUs - look into Pioneer....Eclipse is another, Alpine has always had one of the top models for CD playback though -- can't really go wrong with either.

The premium sound system adapter is NOT necessary.

And yes everything will work fine....you may want to run new wires from your new HU to your new front speakers for ease of installation.
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by seawolf06
If it doesn't then you should rewire everything. Some people will say the new speakers won't work, but mine work fine with an aftermarket HU.
Rewire everything just because something doesn't work????

Anyway - speakers will always work fine with an aftermarket HU..... People just think that replacing speakers with 4 ohm aftermarket speakers (while amp likes to see 2 ohms) will cause dramatic difference in sound volume......which is not true.
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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Yeah I plan on running new wires to the fronts. I just want sound coming from both front speakers and after market will probably sound better than my bose ones. So this should sound ok then? As long as everything else works like it is now, meaning the bass I am getting and the sound from the hatch, I think that I will be pretty happy.

As far as the adapter, how come it is not necessary? Would it be something good to get anyway? Thanks for your help.
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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You can run it without the adapter, but I wouldn't recommend it. If you're running new wires to the front speakers then they will work fine and you won't need the adapter wired for them. If you plan on running the rear speakers through the stock amps and those are busted, then they will not work and you'll have to run more wires to the rear speakers. That's why I said he'd need to run new wires or try new speakers which is more expensive.
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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I think all the rear speakers work fine. I have sound coming from the hatch speaker, and bass from the others I think, haha. As long as those still work the same and I get sound coming from both fronts I will be happy.

The adapter can be ran to just the bose speakers that I leave in there and not to the new fronts that I will put in correct and all should work? Thanks again for all the help guys.
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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Oh, you said the only ones working were the one of the fronts and the hatch speaker. I thought you meant the sub and not the two rear speakers.
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by seawolf06
You can run it without the adapter, but I wouldn't recommend it.
You are talking about the premium sound system adapter, and not a wiring harness....correct?
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Nevermind...didn't realize the car was a '95 without the Monsoon system.

So you have the premium Bose system only...as mentioned in the initial post I didn't read. If you have a Bose system (and NO Monsoon) then you will need an adapter to make the head unit work properly since the Bose system (not Monsoon) has a special head unit that produces a high-impedance, line-level output into the speakers (which have individual amps attached).
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by seawolf06
Oh, you said the only ones working were the one of the fronts and the hatch speaker. I thought you meant the sub and not the two rear speakers.
Yeah I did say that. Only the right front and hatch produce sound right now for me. I read that the two rear sail panel speakers are only mid-bass so not much if any sound comes from those. I am guessing that the two rear sail panels work because I get some decent bass, unless this is just coming from the hatch speaker. Either way, all I want is the front speakers to produce sound and the hatch speaker. If those 3 speakers did that and I still had the bass I have now then I would be set. It would be sufficient enough for me.

So as of right now I am going to get a new HU and two front speakers. New wire will be heading to those speakers. I am going to leave the hatch speaker and the two sail panel speakers alone for now if they will work with the new HU and they should. If you think it is a good idea to get the bose adapter then I will add that and run that to the bose speakers that will still be in the car. All of this should work right? I can pick which speakers I want to wire to the adapter correct? Thanks again for all the help. I wish I didn't have to keep asking questions but I don't know anything about car audio.
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