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Old 05-01-2008, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Threxx
Was it tested in both directions?

Keep in mind that a simple tail wind of 8 mph is all that it'd take to bump the top speed 8 mph on an otherwise flat surface.
I don't know any more details than I shared. I saw a video, and the speedo clearly topped 200.

If all it takes for a Z06 to hit 200 is an 8mph tailwind, I still think that's pretty awesome.
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Those numbers seem right to me. I remeber the ZR1 was said to be about 200lbs more than the Z06 which is about 3155, and it is.
I thought I had seen something that had the weight at 34xx. Could be mistaken.
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Based on what I can see in the video and on a bit of educated guessing, I'm pretty sure this car will do 0-150 in about 16 seconds, which is approximately twice as fast as a stock LS1 F-body can do it.

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I thought I had seen something that had the weight at 34xx. Could be mistaken.
I suspect that what you saw was someone guessing. There hasn't been an official curb weight until now.
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Originally Posted by Threxx
I've always read 192 mph as the verified top speed for the Z06.

The difference between 192 and 205 is big power-wise when keeping the same aerodynamics.
As other's have stated, the current Z06's top speed almost nudges 200 mph; around 198.

Now, "big" is a relative term, but going from 198 to 205 mph (all other things being equal) needs roughly an 11% increase in power. So for the ZR1's engine that outpowers the Z06's by about 133 hp, that's a big:

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Originally Posted by Pentatonic
(all other things being equal)
This is not the case.
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Originally Posted by Pentatonic
As other's have stated, the current Z06's top speed almost nudges 200 mph; around 198.

Now, "big" is a relative term, but going from 198 to 205 mph (all other things being equal) needs roughly an 11% increase in power. So for the ZR1's engine that outpowers the Z06's by about 133 hp, that a big:
Did your 11% increase in power needed take into account the added 200lbs of weight w/o driver(s) and the added aero downforce/drag of the rear spoiler and ground effects?
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
This is not the case.
Yes, I'm aware.

Originally Posted by 99SilverSS
Did your 11% increase in power needed take into account the added 200lbs of weight w/o driver(s) and the added aero downforce/drag of the rear spoiler and ground effects?
No, but why should it? If I added 200 hp to a car but also added a bunch of other junk that slows it down and the end result was only a marginally faster car, is it still impressive (maybe because I added 200 hp)? No, it's not impressive because the end result was only a marginally faster car.

I hope the final ZR1 numbers surprise me, but all of the initial reports have this car looking like a SLUG for all of the extra $$$$$$ and HP.
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Originally Posted by Pentatonic
As other's have stated, the current Z06's top speed almost nudges 200 mph; around 198.
Link to verified / ran both ways 198 mph run?
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Originally Posted by Threxx
Link to verified / ran both ways 198 mph run?
Geez...You want facts? Go to Corvetteforum.com or Digitalcorvettes.com and ask anyone there in the Z06 Sections. The C6 Z06 IS rated at 198 mph top speed by GM.

Why is it so hard to believe? Japanese manufacturers have a reputation for fudging performance numbers not GM.
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Originally Posted by Threxx
Link to verified / ran both ways 198 mph run?
Would you like the full engineering test report too? 198 mph was claimed by GM some time ago.

It was a chance to explore the limits on the tracks, and soak up what it's like to touch 190 mph (Chevy claims it's good for 198 mph)
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=2781

Perhaps they ran it in a 10 degree cross wind, or perhaps the track had high sidewalls where wind wouldn't have much of an effect, or perhaps it was behind a tree-line.

The 198 mph is a manufacturer's claim, just like the 205 mph ZR1 video that you posted. The difference is that with the video, you have more of a feel for the test conditions in which it was ran. There isn't a similar video for the 198 mph run, but the test results come from the same source; GM.
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Originally Posted by 99SilverSS
Did your 11% increase in power needed take into account the added 200lbs of weight w/o driver(s) and the added aero downforce/drag of the rear spoiler and ground effects?
Weight is meaningless for a top speed run. It would only affect the time required to reach top speed.
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Wait a second, I want to make sure I'm reading this right: Are people seriously not impressed with a 205mph top speed? Where is the list of productoin cars with a warranty comparable to GM's that will do better for <$200k?

There are some spoiled mf'ers up in here...
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Originally Posted by IREngineer
Wait a second, I want to make sure I'm reading this right: Are people seriously not impressed with a 205mph top speed? Where is the list of productoin cars with a warranty comparable to GM's that will do better for <$200k?
The recent portions of this discussion are comparing the Z06 with the ZR1. Perhaps you may want to re-read.

And we shall see what the Nissan GTR and GTR-V will do with a GM comparable warranty for well under $200K. Competition is quite tough out there, and the GTR is already beating the Z06 in just about every road test done so far. I also hear Toyota is coming out with a sports car similar to the Supra. I wonder what that will hold...
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Originally Posted by Pentatonic
The recent portions of this discussion are comparing the Z06 with the ZR1. Perhaps you may want to re-read.

And we shall see what the Nissan GTR and GTR-V will do with a GM comparable warranty for well under $200K. Competition is quite tough out there, and the GTR is already beating the Z06 in just about every road test done so far. I also hear Toyota is coming out with a sports car similar to the Supra. I wonder what that will hold...
I've read the thread fine. My point still stands.

The Z06 is still the top 3 bangs for the buck in the world (yes, the GT-R is probably the best). The ZR1 is not going for bang for the buck, it's going for all out performance. 205mph is flat out impressive.

In regards to the GT-R, it is a halo vehicle that Nissan is selling at a loss (no proof, but I'm pretty damn sure). It is paying off for them in spades and making Carlos look like a genius.

I'm ready for the ZR1 NBR numbers already...
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Originally Posted by Pentatonic
No, it's not impressive because the end result was only a marginally faster car.
We're not at the Bonneville Salt Flats.

The ZR1 will most likely outperform the Z06 at everything (except perhaps fuel economy). The Z06 being an impressive car in the first place, I can't help but be impressed by that.
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