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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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I find it ironic that the price arguement is being used. Why is that any more valid than the hp per liter arguement? The Mustang produces more hp per liter with a smaller motor
That would be great except its not accurate. Displacement and external dimentions are two totally different things.

Hp is hp, dollars are dollars.

How you make the hp is irrelevant. Total output is the measurement. Besides, the volumetrically smaller 4.6L ford is externally larger and quite a bit heavier. In that context the Camaro actually made far more power from a smaller motor, quite a bit smaller if you've ever seen them side by side.

For the comparatively small internal displacement, the Ford 4.6L is a monster externally!!!

The discussion of how much speed you can buy for X amount of dollars is extremely relevant. If the mustang produced equal performance for less money it would have been a totally different argument, but it produced considerally less performance for less money.
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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I see your semantics skills are well tuned...meaningless, but well tuned.
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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The HP/Litre arguement is meaningless and makes no sense. However, the HP/lb(of the engine itself) and the overall deminsions of the motor makes for a very valid point.
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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well, an intresting hypothetical question would be, if GM had the ability to make a $150k+ production sports car, what would it be? would it be 2x better than a $75k C6 Z06?
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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In the end the GT is just a Ford, nothing more, nothing less and far from exotic. For $150K, you get something that looks a 40 year old race car with nice plastic looking seats.

In the end the Corvette is the best American performance car for the money with 50+ years of heritage.
The new C6 Z06 is not "exotic" either, but its not meant to be. What it will be is the ultimate all-around American performance car.

The C6 Z06 will raise the bar.
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Yea, i mean, how silly of an American manfucture to even try to build cars to compete with high priced foreign sports cars, like the GT.. They'll never get it right, cause in the end, its just an overpriced, ugly, clumsy American car... I mean geeze, they had to reach all the way back to the 60's, the last time they were actually competative...



or is that too harsh?

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In the end the GT is just a Ford, nothing more, nothing less and far from exotic. For $150K, you get something that looks a 40 year old race car with nice plastic looking seats.
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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well, an intresting hypothetical question would be, if GM had the ability to make a $150k+ production sports car, what would it be? would it be 2x better than a $75k C6 Z06?
No, because there is a law of diminishing returns in all things peformance related. The more money you spend the more incremental the improvements are going to be.
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris 96 WS6
No, because there is a law of diminishing returns in all things peformance related. The more money you spend the more incremental the improvements are going to be.
It's more related to the volume of cars you can sell than the performance, which is why the LSx is absolute genius.
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 30thZ286speed

The C6 Z06 will raise the bar.
as long as its not chrome
Old Jan 9, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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ok so let me throw a little monkey wrench in this whole equation. dealing with 1/4 mile times and such. traction being equal and weight being equal. if motor a makes 50 more hp than motor b, also assuming they spin to the same rpm level and have the same gears. motor b makes more low end torque. wich one is gonna be faster in the 1/4 mile?
i remember reading a comparison a month or so ago with an lt1 motor on nitrous and a 4.6 on boost. they were talking about the lt1 makes way more low end power but less top end power and they claimed it was the superchargers fault and that was the reason they said the lt1 would be better in a race
Old Jan 9, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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My prediction...

GT and ZO6 are within .25sec and ~2mph on the drag strip, and GT slightly beats ZO6 on a road course.

Like it was said before, a GT driver had better be on his toes, and have the ability to wring every last ounce out of the car, or the Vette is gonna sneak up and have a bite of his ***. The car rag reviews are gonna be interesting.
Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:51 AM
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How many GTs has Ford sold since they were released? How many Z06s did Chevy sell in the same time period?
Old Jan 10, 2005 | 07:10 AM
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How many GTs has Ford sold since they were released?
Better question:

Of those sold, how many can actually be driven yet?
Old Jan 23, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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good point
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 07:53 AM
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With the specs on the engine it really makes you wonder if the "Blue Devil" corvette is really gonna happen. With forged and titanium internals you could put a lot of boost with a supercharger on it. It would probably make 650 hp with just 5psi, with the forged internals, a little more boost with a stock or aftermarket supercharger, and the corvette could be making well over 700 hp.
According to the last issue of GM High tech there is a little article that says a source has confirmed the blue devil program but its running into some issues ironing it out.
Even if it doesnt happen. Before the Z06 comes out im sure procharger and vortech will already have a system for them.



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