So, if Zeta is off for NA, would chassis based on Zeta be off too?

Sigma
Zeta
Kappa
Rumble

The plot thickens...

 

Maybe I'm reading your post wrong but I'm pretty sure that Kappa is in no way related to Zeta or Sigma. It's much more similar to the C5 platform than anything else.

 

Chewy,

He is just listing RWD platforms not complimentary platforms.

 

Indeed.

 

Whoa...where did this "Rumble" come from? Can we be thrown a bone here!! First off, doesnt fit the "greek life" chassis set up.

I still would like to know how close Zeta is to Sigma.

 

Give us a V8, long wheel base, 2+2 hardtop Solstice, call it Camaro, price it from ~25-30K, and call it a day. You could also make a V6 version, but I don't see something as small as Kappa being a very practical, mainstream, high volume car. Unless you can make Kappa a whole lot larger than the Sky/Solstice.

 

Consider the size of the Extended Kappa (a la Nomad and Curve):

The wheelbase of the Nomad and Curve is 107 inches.
The wheelbase for the first and second gen. Camaro: 108 inches.
Third and fourth gen.: 101 inches.
Front and rear track are almost the same as well.
First gen. Being 59 inches
Fourth gen. Is 60 inches.
Our kappa examples: 60 inches up front and 61 in the rear.
The height of the cars.
The Curve is 49 inches
The past generations Camaro is either 49 or 51 inches.
I won’t include the width or total length of the cars because that is effected be the shape of the body and the overhang in front and back.

The Wheelbase and trackwidth of the extended Kappa is right in line with past generations and would/could provide as much room or even more than the 4th Gen due to the longer wheel base.

Just some food for thought.

 

1 thing that everyone should keep in mind if you plan on converting a IRS to live axle: The floor pan will need to be modified. You need to make room for the axle to move up and down with the suspension.

Randy

 

[QUOTE=guionM]
Let's be blunt here, Camaro was never a world class, sophisticated piece of automotive wonderment. [QUOTE=guionM]

Your right it was never world class, it was never refined, it was never sophisticated. It is also no longer in production. Maybe those things are related?

[QUOTE=guionM]that rides & handles better than the 4th gen[QUOTE=guionM]

This is exactly what most of this so called "posturing" is trying to accomplish. How exactly do you expect this to happen? Lets face it, the live axle on the 4th gen was done pretty well ( I am talking vehicle dynamics, not strength. Relax drag racers). The reality of the situation, that some don't seem to get, is that there are legitimate and real limitations / weaknesses to a solid axle. GM has pretty much taken this approach as far as it can go. At some point, you reach a limit and there is no more room for improvement. You cannot tune out the laws of physics.

 

the curve is 156in long.i like that.alot.

 

While I like short overhangs, It wouldn't work for a Camaro. IMO

 

so if they added say 20in to make it "more camaro like" it'll still be only 176in long.

 

The Mustang isn't refined or sophisticated (at least to some), and its production has taken off like a rocket. Are those things related?

What laws of physics state that there is no more room for improvement with the solid axle?

 

Where do you buy your daily-dose of common sense?
Are the pills big, or is it a liquid?
There seems to be a market for it...

 

Mustang is proof that if done right it can be highly effective, and personnally I don't see anything wrong with a solid axle if it will save me $$$ without much trade-off. I feel the problem is with GM and how they view the potential Camaro market. It's easy for Ford to spend the money to develop a competent solid axle suspension, knowing they'll get 200,000+ sales (as long as they don't do another Mustang II). But GM doesn't know if they can get 50,000 based on past sales. Mustang will always have a bigger following than the Camaro, mostly due to the direction the 2 companies took their respective pony cars. The question now lies with GM to see if they can develop and market a car that is as good or better than a Mustang and win back sales from everyday people, not just pony car enthusiasts.