Work on Next-Gen Colorado and Canyon for North America Under Way, Sources Say
#62
Re: Work on Next-Gen Colorado and Canyon for North America Under Way, Sources Say
The Colorado is NOWHERE NEAR the size of a full size pickup of any recent generation. Whether you mean the GMT400s ('88-'98, or '00 for the 2500+ models) or the previous, boxy models ('73-'87), the Colorado isn't close.
Look up the dimensions of the dang thing and compare to the dimensions of the S10. It is marginally larger. And it does not cost the same as or more than a 1500.
Look up the dimensions of the dang thing and compare to the dimensions of the S10. It is marginally larger. And it does not cost the same as or more than a 1500.
#63
Re: Work on Next-Gen Colorado and Canyon for North America Under Way, Sources Say
The Colorado is the size of a full size truck 3 generations ago..and costs the same, or more than a 1500 truck. That is why it sucks. If someone made a little pack mule like the anger from the 80s, that got signifigantly better gas milage than a 15000 and kept the price range $14-22K, it would be a winner.
Colorado is tiny next to a fullsize pickup. When it was new in 2004 all the complaints were that it was too small compared to the Dakota, Tocoma, and Frontier. A 2011 Colorado is give or take and inch the same size as a 1994 S-10.
Next you are going to tell us the Escape sucks because it is the same size as an Expedition.
#64
Re: Work on Next-Gen Colorado and Canyon for North America Under Way, Sources Say
There is nothing wrong with the SIZE of the Colorado. I have an '08 reg cab 4x4 on my lot right now. Its a perfect sized truck. It even looks good outside...I concur the interior is just awful.
Consider the Dakota is MUCH bigger than a Colorado, and yet the Dakota is still MUCH smaller than my Rams, and you can see how whining about the size of a Colorado makes no sense
FWIW, while I'm permanently stuck in FS trucks because I actually use my truck as a truck, I think a good quality compact is a worthy thing to have for the D3. None of them have one at this point. I know this is the last year for the Dakota...Chrysler is working on a replacement right now...it will not be BOF, though, from what I hear
Consider the Dakota is MUCH bigger than a Colorado, and yet the Dakota is still MUCH smaller than my Rams, and you can see how whining about the size of a Colorado makes no sense
FWIW, while I'm permanently stuck in FS trucks because I actually use my truck as a truck, I think a good quality compact is a worthy thing to have for the D3. None of them have one at this point. I know this is the last year for the Dakota...Chrysler is working on a replacement right now...it will not be BOF, though, from what I hear
#65
Re: Work on Next-Gen Colorado and Canyon for North America Under Way, Sources Say
The biggest issue with me is the price; which is why I've said its "too big" in the past. My thought being that if they downsize it and drop some of the unnecessary amenities they could also drop the price. You really don't want your entry level "small" truck coming in only a couple grand shy of its "full-size" counterpart, otherwise, what's the point?
#66
Re: Work on Next-Gen Colorado and Canyon for North America Under Way, Sources Say
To me, the Trailblazer would have been the perfect size "compact/mid-size" truck. The SSR doesn't count since it is more of a toy than a truck.
The Colorado was too small. The Silverado is just a little too big. A Trailblazer-truck would have been just right.
I still don't understand why GM didn't just make a truck out of the TB instead of developing the Colorado. THey could have spread development costs out to make stuff like the interiors MUCH better.
The Colorado was too small. The Silverado is just a little too big. A Trailblazer-truck would have been just right.
I still don't understand why GM didn't just make a truck out of the TB instead of developing the Colorado. THey could have spread development costs out to make stuff like the interiors MUCH better.
Last edited by AdioSS; 03-28-2011 at 04:51 PM.
#67
Re: Work on Next-Gen Colorado and Canyon for North America Under Way, Sources Say
The biggest issue with me is the price; which is why I've said its "too big" in the past. My thought being that if they downsize it and drop some of the unnecessary amenities they could also drop the price. You really don't want your entry level "small" truck coming in only a couple grand shy of its "full-size" counterpart, otherwise, what's the point?
Last edited by ImportedRoomate; 03-28-2011 at 05:18 PM.
#68
Re: Work on Next-Gen Colorado and Canyon for North America Under Way, Sources Say
To me, the Trailblazer would have been the perfect size "compact/mid-size" truck. The SSR doesn't count since it is more of a toy than a truck.
The Colorado was too small. The Silverado is just a little too big. A Trailblazer-truck would have been just right.
I still don't understand why GM didn't just make a truck out of the TB instead of developing the Colorado. THey could have spread development costs out to make stuff like the interiors MUCH better.
The Colorado was too small. The Silverado is just a little too big. A Trailblazer-truck would have been just right.
I still don't understand why GM didn't just make a truck out of the TB instead of developing the Colorado. THey could have spread development costs out to make stuff like the interiors MUCH better.
#69
Re: Work on Next-Gen Colorado and Canyon for North America Under Way, Sources Say
What I was pointing out is that what we really need are cheap small trucks. Sure you can offer a high-content version, but give us a small truck with an entry level standard cab, short bed, 4 banger & stick, 2WD with vinyl seats, crank windows and not much fluff... and price it for around $15k.
Is that too much to ask for?
#70
Re: Work on Next-Gen Colorado and Canyon for North America Under Way, Sources Say
What I was pointing out is that what we really need are cheap small trucks. Sure you can offer a high-content version, but give us a small truck with an entry level standard cab, short bed, 4 banger & stick, 2WD with vinyl seats, crank windows and not much fluff... and price it for around $15k.
Is that too much to ask for?
Is that too much to ask for?
http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/byo/b...&zipCode=46112
$17855 with destination for a Colorado WT reg cab 2wd. 2.9L 4 cylinder, 185 hp, 190 lb ft, 25 mpg hwy. Includes base stereo and A/C, tilt and cruise as well. I bet you could buy that thing for close to $15k, if not below that.
Would that work for you?
#71
Re: Work on Next-Gen Colorado and Canyon for North America Under Way, Sources Say
Vinyl seats? Really?
#72
Re: Work on Next-Gen Colorado and Canyon for North America Under Way, Sources Say
I guarantee you could go buy a Colorado like that for $15k, or dang close to it. They base at $17k MSRP. It might not have vinyl (I think you get cloth) but...
http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/byo/b...&zipCode=46112
$17855 with destination for a Colorado WT reg cab 2wd. 2.9L 4 cylinder, 185 hp, 190 lb ft, 25 mpg hwy. Includes base stereo and A/C, tilt and cruise as well. I bet you could buy that thing for close to $15k, if not below that.
Would that work for you?
http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/byo/b...&zipCode=46112
$17855 with destination for a Colorado WT reg cab 2wd. 2.9L 4 cylinder, 185 hp, 190 lb ft, 25 mpg hwy. Includes base stereo and A/C, tilt and cruise as well. I bet you could buy that thing for close to $15k, if not below that.
Would that work for you?
#73
Re: Work on Next-Gen Colorado and Canyon for North America Under Way, Sources Say
For those of us that use a truck as a truck is intended, vinyl is a heck of a lot easier to clean than cloth. (The Silverado 1500 WT comes with vinyl seats.)
Heck, even my 1967 Camaros have vinyl seats.
Heck, even my 1967 Camaros have vinyl seats.
Last edited by jg95z28; 03-29-2011 at 03:23 PM.
#74
Re: Work on Next-Gen Colorado and Canyon for North America Under Way, Sources Say
Still too expensive. I would like to see a $15k MSRP small truck, which with discounts could be purchased for around $13k. $18k MSRP is still too close to the base Silverado 1500 WT in price. (Currently $19,845 with discounts.) Which is why I'd accept vinyl instead of cloth.
Also, not really fair to quote the discounted Silverado price and compare to the MSRP of the Colorado.
If you want one for $13k, buy a year old used one. (I bought my '05 Z71 ext cab, well equipped, for $13.5k in '07. Certified used with 23k miles). Of course, you'd have to find the one other guy in the country who wants one equipped the same way you do, and convince him to sell it...
#75
Re: Work on Next-Gen Colorado and Canyon for North America Under Way, Sources Say
Heck, I'd like to see a $15k Camaro droptop.
Also, not really fair to quote the discounted Silverado price and compare to the MSRP of the Colorado.
If you want one for $13k, buy a year old used one. (I bought my '05 Z71 ext cab, well equipped, for $13.5k in '07. Certified used with 23k miles). Of course, you'd have to find the one other guy in the country who wants one equipped the same way you do, and convince him to sell it...
Also, not really fair to quote the discounted Silverado price and compare to the MSRP of the Colorado.
If you want one for $13k, buy a year old used one. (I bought my '05 Z71 ext cab, well equipped, for $13.5k in '07. Certified used with 23k miles). Of course, you'd have to find the one other guy in the country who wants one equipped the same way you do, and convince him to sell it...