What does "SS" really mean....TODAY?
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Originally posted by guionM
That is exactly what SS is supposed to mean. The top power in that particular car line!!
But the trouble here is 2 fold.
1. Compare the price & performance to another competitor, and SS just doesn't hold up.
2. Top power in a car line here (re: Camaro and Silverado) is way too small for the cover charge.
The Impala & Monte Carlo SS may change that, and the Colbalt SS seems to certainly be on track to do that. It's just that those Camaro SSs were pretty expensive for what you got, and the Silverado SS is just plain $$$$$
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That is exactly what SS is supposed to mean. The top power in that particular car line!!
But the trouble here is 2 fold.
1. Compare the price & performance to another competitor, and SS just doesn't hold up.
2. Top power in a car line here (re: Camaro and Silverado) is way too small for the cover charge.
The Impala & Monte Carlo SS may change that, and the Colbalt SS seems to certainly be on track to do that. It's just that those Camaro SSs were pretty expensive for what you got, and the Silverado SS is just plain $$$$$
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Originally posted by steves
Why does the GP have more power, hud, tap shift, Light weight wheels and a better suspension and cost less?
Why does the GP have more power, hud, tap shift, Light weight wheels and a better suspension and cost less?
I couldn't tell you that. Where in my explanation did I bring up other GM divsions, let alone outside competition? "SS" means the most power and content Chevy offers in their line. That's what SS stands for right now. This isn't hard to understand.FWIW, I honestly believe this is just the very beginning for the SS badge. I remember Red saying he and a LOT of other people at Chevy are not happy with the MC SS. It needs a considerable upgrade. And I have a feeling the kinds of power gains we're looking for are coming. Hopefully we can get them at a REASONABLE price *hint hint*
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Originally posted by Z28Wilson
The question is what does SS mean today. Well, looking at what SS is at Chevy in the here-and-now, it is a mild performance upgrade in the line, and it is also top of the line in terms of content. With that in mind, it's also an excuse to charge the most.
"SS" isn't really SVT/PVO competition. I think that's been pretty blatantly displayed with the Silverado version.
The question is what does SS mean today. Well, looking at what SS is at Chevy in the here-and-now, it is a mild performance upgrade in the line, and it is also top of the line in terms of content. With that in mind, it's also an excuse to charge the most.
"SS" isn't really SVT/PVO competition. I think that's been pretty blatantly displayed with the Silverado version.
This is where we left off...
Does SS really need to be an SVT? Is that really part of the strategy?
SVT uses it's limited volumes to create excitement and attention...which theoritically overflows into greater sales for it's more pedestrian offerings.
For Chevy... "SS" are the sales.
I see it as a different strategy.
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Originally posted by Z284ever
OK...let's give this another try......
This is where we left off...
Does SS really need to be an SVT? Is that really part of the strategy?
SVT uses it's limited volumes to create excitement and attention...which theoritically overflows into greater sales for it's more pedestrian offerings.
For Chevy... "SS" are the sales.
I see it as a different strategy.
OK...let's give this another try......
This is where we left off...
Does SS really need to be an SVT? Is that really part of the strategy?
SVT uses it's limited volumes to create excitement and attention...which theoritically overflows into greater sales for it's more pedestrian offerings.
For Chevy... "SS" are the sales.
I see it as a different strategy.
I think for Chevy "SS" is money in the bank no matter what it is.
GuionM had some good ideas.
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Actually, I don't think SS needs to be an SVT. I think where SS is right now is pretty good.....they just need more value.
I believe Impala/MC SS...as they are now, would be great cars for $26-28K. And Silverado SS at around $34K.
I believe Impala/MC SS...as they are now, would be great cars for $26-28K. And Silverado SS at around $34K.
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Originally posted by Z284ever
Actually, I don't think SS needs to be an SVT. I think where SS is right now is pretty good.....they just need more value.
I believe Impala/MC SS...as they are now, would be great cars for $26-28K. And Silverado SS at around $34K.
Actually, I don't think SS needs to be an SVT. I think where SS is right now is pretty good.....they just need more value.
I believe Impala/MC SS...as they are now, would be great cars for $26-28K. And Silverado SS at around $34K.
Impala and MC SS should have all the GP goodies and be priced under 30K.
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SS doesn't have to be like SVT..and I'll tell you why.
SVT designs very focused cars in relatively limited quantities for maybe 20,000 or so enthusiasts per year. It caters these cars, to them.
For example,they don't need to worry about certifying things like automatic trans's...because, other than Lightning, no SVT vehicle has ever had one.
And that's the beauty of it...there is no need for one. The several thousand or so enthusiasts, these cars are aimed at, don't want one. End of problem.
Fast forward afew years. How many SS's does Chevy plan to sell annually in total in all of it's lines? 100,000? 110,000? 125,000? More?
Those sorts of volumes can never be reached....if you aim all those vehicles too directly at only enthusiasts.
The SS vehicles right now are not SVT's....but maybe they don't need to be.
SVT designs very focused cars in relatively limited quantities for maybe 20,000 or so enthusiasts per year. It caters these cars, to them.
For example,they don't need to worry about certifying things like automatic trans's...because, other than Lightning, no SVT vehicle has ever had one.
And that's the beauty of it...there is no need for one. The several thousand or so enthusiasts, these cars are aimed at, don't want one. End of problem.
Fast forward afew years. How many SS's does Chevy plan to sell annually in total in all of it's lines? 100,000? 110,000? 125,000? More?
Those sorts of volumes can never be reached....if you aim all those vehicles too directly at only enthusiasts.
The SS vehicles right now are not SVT's....but maybe they don't need to be.
Last edited by Z284ever; Sep 11, 2003 at 10:32 PM.
