What does "SS" really mean....TODAY?
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Originally posted by formula79
I think you were trying to start a new version of the same BS argument that has been going on two years. You can wrap a pile of dung in lace...but that still don't change the fact that it's dung...
I think you were trying to start a new version of the same BS argument that has been going on two years. You can wrap a pile of dung in lace...but that still don't change the fact that it's dung...
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Originally posted by Morgan SS
eh, he just asked for the facts, there they are, blahblahblah although very intelligent, isn't really a quote,
eh, he just asked for the facts, there they are, blahblahblah although very intelligent, isn't really a quote,
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Originally posted by steves
Nice work. Now take aaaaaaaaall those performance options and add them to the price of the base SS. What do you have (2002) 345hp pak and a different suspension set-up that was installed at SLP for mid-high 30's (I've seen them sticker at 37k). Compared to 310hp on the Z28 at mid-high 20's. Now the question at hand which performed better. 1st off I don't remember seeing a magazine test were the SS was faster than a Z28. 2nd going to the dragstrip and autocross I never seen an SS beat out a Z28. So you tell me what did your 10k get you? NOTHING!!! The only thing I could come up with is some nice badges, fancy wheels, scoop, spoiler and bragging rights for more hp.
I think thats the definition of SS.
Nice work. Now take aaaaaaaaall those performance options and add them to the price of the base SS. What do you have (2002) 345hp pak and a different suspension set-up that was installed at SLP for mid-high 30's (I've seen them sticker at 37k). Compared to 310hp on the Z28 at mid-high 20's. Now the question at hand which performed better. 1st off I don't remember seeing a magazine test were the SS was faster than a Z28. 2nd going to the dragstrip and autocross I never seen an SS beat out a Z28. So you tell me what did your 10k get you? NOTHING!!! The only thing I could come up with is some nice badges, fancy wheels, scoop, spoiler and bragging rights for more hp.
I think thats the definition of SS.
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Originally posted by Z284ever
Hey....do me a favor, if you've got nothing to add...DON"T POST.
Hey....do me a favor, if you've got nothing to add...DON"T POST.
I would hate to live with you...I bet you wake up screaming from nightmares about a 5th Gen SS being the top model.
FWIW I think that Chevy is position SS as the designation for all it's top performers not named Corvette. You don't like it...tough, it's how they are doing it. Is it revisionism? I would say the current SS cars can hold there own quite well against SS's of the past. I don't wanna be around when they role out the Cobalt SS
Last edited by formula79; Sep 11, 2003 at 12:46 PM.
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Originally posted by formula79
Do me a favor...please stop posting threads concerneding SS and it's market place...it leads to the same flame wars and no one is really interested.
I would hate to live with you...I bet you wake up screaming from nightmares about a 5th Gen SS being the top model.
Do me a favor...please stop posting threads concerneding SS and it's market place...it leads to the same flame wars and no one is really interested.
I would hate to live with you...I bet you wake up screaming from nightmares about a 5th Gen SS being the top model.
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I want two things before this goes any further:
steves, what car do you own? 4th gen Z28? Give me the mod list.
Z284ever, you too. Car, year, mod list.
Pandamonkey...
"Compared to competition SS means - SUPER SLOW..........."
Oh really... Name the car and I'll be happy to run it.
steves, what car do you own? 4th gen Z28? Give me the mod list.
Z284ever, you too. Car, year, mod list.
Pandamonkey...
"Compared to competition SS means - SUPER SLOW..........."
Oh really... Name the car and I'll be happy to run it.
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Originally posted by formula79
Do me a favor...please stop posting threads concerneding SS and it's market place...it leads to the same flame wars and no one is really interested.
I would hate to live with you...I bet you wake up screaming from nightmares about a 5th Gen SS being the top model.
Do me a favor...please stop posting threads concerneding SS and it's market place...it leads to the same flame wars and no one is really interested.
I would hate to live with you...I bet you wake up screaming from nightmares about a 5th Gen SS being the top model.
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Originally posted by Z284ever
Did your "corporate masters" email you that response?
Did your "corporate masters" email you that response?
Essentially it states that by putting the SS treatment on a car it has put a peice of the Corvettes performance heritage in it. A Chevelle SS is a Chevelle with some Corvette in it. You can't have a Corvette SS because it would be a Corvette with some Corvette in it
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Originally posted by PacerX
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Z284ever, you too. Car, year, mod list.
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Z284ever, you too. Car, year, mod list.
So where we going with this?
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Originally posted by guionM
Why do I have a feeling this is on the edge of becomming a Z28 vs SS debate again.
Please, lets not go there for awhile...
Why do I have a feeling this is on the edge of becomming a Z28 vs SS debate again.
Please, lets not go there for awhile...
Let's talk reasonably for a second also...
I know a lid is worth 10hp at the wheels.
I know the SLP exhausts are worth anoth 5hp at the wheels easily.
I know a 275/40/17 can outlaunch, out brake and out-corner any of the Z28 tires. I've got a fistful of 1.9-2.0 60' slips to show it.
I know I got the aluminum driveshaft, and that it's lighter than the steel ones many Z28's came with.
I know the Z28 has a softer ride.
I know the SS's NEVER came with the speed limiter that some Z28's did.
I've NEVER seen a stripper Z28 weighed against an SS like mine. 100 lbs? 200 lbs? 300 lbs?