The Stage III upgrade is 300HP/300tq


I don't think the neon is ugly, it is an ok looking car, I actually think it is a little girly looking. The SRT-4 is a very nice improvment, it's a lot tougher looking

 

why? afraid of it stepping on your Evo's toes and being a better value?

i actually think it would be a good idea for Dodge to develop an AWD system for the SRT-4. the success of them should warrent it. Dodge could then essentially sell 2 levels of them. Level 1, pure FWD pocket rocket. Level 2, AWD quasi-rally car competator.

that's at the wheels?? that's more than its rated at the crank!! and that's after it was uprated this year... WOW.

 

Didn't mean to get your goat Pacer (I forgot you own one). It was just a goof. But yeah, it is a shock that they sell more than a dozen a year quite honestly.

 

I hope this means the Cobalt SS and Saturn ION will up power a little. 200 HP isn't enough to compete with the SRT-4.

 

it doesn't look like its going to be easy... the Red Line already uses an intercooler and peaks at 12lbs of boost. that's pretty high boost. i'm sure there will be pully swap kits a few seconds after the Red Line/SS hit the floor, but the Ecotec is unproven on boost and isn't built up that much from the factory. so its not clear how far you can take it and what kind of gains to expect.

hopefully GM is underrating the blown Eco.

 

If you think about it, those cars really remind you of the Dodge Daytona of yore. Only the stage 1 is avaible right now, and if I remember right doesnt void your warrenty! The stage 2/3 should be out sometime next year, but they are still working on them somewhat.

 

Well there are new versions of the eco coming out so hopefully that'll field better. If they get creative, maybe they'd throw in that 255 HP turboed Eco that was in the ugly Saturn Rally Car that was posted in here earlier. A 255 HP Cobalt SS vs SRT-4, now thats something.

 

In a world of roads that turn, the neon and Evo are worlds apart, not going into that arguement right now. Anyways, cheap power is what this car is all about, It would loose what it's all about if it became AWD and cost $25k.

IMHO, all these cars, saturns, neons, cavaliers, need to be able to make big numbers. There are already a bunch of bolt on turbo kits that bump the evo up to 450, 550, and 650 wheel hp for less than $4k. Most owner's will NOT put one of these kits on their cars, but it's a big selling point in this demographic that your car has the potential to go big. Everyone's a magazine racer, you know.

 

it will have the exact same hp and torque it always had they just adjusted the numbers.

 

T_TypeZ--shut up you GM lover!

 

shut up mikey

 

where is this magical land you live in where real cars rule and rice is rare, i will relocate immediately






on topic - dodge did pretty good with the SRT-4...if people have to buy little pocketrockets, id rather them buy from the big 3 than imports....lesser of 2 evils by far

 

They have a revised engine control module and bigger injectors.