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What base Engine should a 5th Gen have?

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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 09:02 AM
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What base Engine should a 5th Gen have?

Okay assuming that the 5th Gen gets two engines...a V8 and a Base engine (likley senerio) what Base engine would you choose from the given options...BTW the 3800 will be dead
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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It's not on your list, but I vote for the straight-six that's currently in the Trailblazer. 270 horse, decent gas economy, and plenty of potential for modding. Hell, they could even detune it a bit if they wanted to for better economy, but I think that by the time the next Camaro hits the showroom that will be just the right amount of power.

As far as the 5th Gen getting only two engines, I hope it gets three. A base, a V8, then a more powerful V8 that comes in the Z/28.
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by 95 Z-28 LT1
It's not on your list, but I vote for the straight-six that's currently in the Trailblazer. 270 horse, decent gas economy, and plenty of potential for modding. Hell, they could even detune it a bit if they wanted to for better economy, but I think that by the time the next Camaro hits the showroom that will be just the right amount of power.

As far as the 5th Gen getting only two engines, I hope it gets three. A base, a V8, then a more powerful V8 that comes in the Z/28.
Straight 6 won't fit...I doubt the 5 will really..only reason it fit in the Bel Air was because they used the Colorodo chasis.

Also don't expect base engine performance to raise much over current levels if at all.

When i said V8..it may be in different levels of tune for different models...much like the LS1-LS6 relationship.
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 09:40 AM
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I think the I5 could give the base car some uniqueness, while provideing suffcient power... I voted for that.
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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Straight 6 won't fit...I doubt the 5 will really..only reason it fit in the Bel Air was because they used the Colorodo chasis.

Also don't expect base engine performance to raise much over current levels if at all.

When i said V8..it may be in different levels of tune for different models...much like the LS1-LS6 relationship.

How do you know it wont fit? If that is the case then the straight-5 would be the next best bet. Also, I thought that the Bel Air was built on the Trailblazer chasis.

As for base engine power, they had better liven things up some. I would bet money that when they decide on a base horsepower level it will be either class leading or matching it. The base model needs as much bang for the buck as they can make it.
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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Of course, I think your poll is going to be skewed by puttiing arbitrary HP figured in like 200, and 215...

Almost everyone will just vote for the one with more power.

And adding the mullet options really doesn't add a ton of credibility...
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by 95 Z-28 LT1
How do you know it wont fit? If that is the case then the straight-5 would be the next best bet. Also, I thought that the Bel Air was built on the Trailblazer chasis.

As for base engine power, they had better liven things up some. I would bet money that when they decide on a base horsepower level it will be either class leading or matching it. The base model needs as much bang for the buck as they can make it.
Lets just say i did some asking around...Actually I kinda know what direction it may be going in (since nothing is final and I am not gonna tell)...and I just wanna see how close your opinions are.
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 09:51 AM
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NON OF THE ABOVE!

GM has already announced (actually Ronnie Z. himself), that GM would have a a HV V6...(which is an evolution of the current 60* V6), with 230hp and DoD. That's the one I'd keep my eye on.

It would be nice if the 4 valve HF family would be considered....but I'm sure that would be deemed too expensive for Camaro.
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by Darth Xed
Of course, I think your poll is going to be skewed by puttiing arbitrary HP figured in like 200, and 215...

Almost everyone will just vote for the one with more power.

And adding the mullet options really doesn't add a ton of credibility...
Well the 3500 we know will come in around 200 and the I5 has 215 or so in the Colorado. I am going on the assumption that GM won't spend money to modify an engine just for the Camaro.

the mullet comment was a joke...if you have one..i am sorry if I offended you.
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 09:54 AM
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It would be nice if the 4 valve HF family would be considered....but I'm sure that would be deemed too expensive for Camaro.
Answered your own question...a OHC engine costs alot more than any of the listed engines except maybe the I5. Plus I have gotten the impression there is no desire to make the base car much faster than it already is (which is quite respectable).
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 10:01 AM
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I think what ever engine it is will need to be over 225HP

maybe a I5 for the base, 260HP 3.6L DOHC V6 or 285HP S/C 3.5L OHV for the RS
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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Well the 3500 we know will come in around 200 and the I5 has 215 or so in the Colorado. I am going on the assumption that GM won't spend money to modify an engine just for the Camaro.

the mullet comment was a joke...if you have one..i am sorry if I offended you.

Coming in "around 200" for the 3500 and "215 or so" for the I5 is hardly numbers set in stone... the varyance between the two could very well swing in the opposite direction even.

I doubt GM would modify the engine 'specifically for Camaro' as well, but that doesn't mean your numbers are right, and they influence the vote, so why put them in there?

Either have a poll saying:

"Which HP rating would be acceptible" 200? 225? 250? etc

or have one saying "Which engnine configuration would best suit the base model" Ecotech? I5? 3500? etc etc etc

At least you'd get some info that might be worth something, and somewhat unbiased...

By making fun of mullets, you offend a proud race of people... and no, I do not have one.
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 10:32 AM
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I would say the 3.5L OHV N/A for the base - which would be weak, but stealing it from other GM cars and adding slightly better designed exhaust manifolds, a different catback, gear ratio, and some other little knick knacks to get it moving.

Then if they wanted a full line - a 3.5L OHV supercharged for the "RS"

Then a 5.7L for the v8

And finally a 6L Ls6 variant for the z28

But I like having lots of engine options for my car. That's just the way I think it should be done.
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 10:46 AM
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By the time it comes out, I don't think 200 or 215 will be enough. Isn't the 05 mustang's V6 supposed to be in the 250 range?
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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How about an alloy 4.8 or 5.3 liter LS-1 V8. With cars like the lowly Nissan Altima V6, a tame 6-cylinder will seem fairly weak. A base F5 would need at least 275hp to be competitive. I don't see an OHV V6 doing the job, and a DOHC I5 or V6 would be almost as expensive, and heavy, as an aluminum V8.



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