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Well, We saw this coming.....'07 Impala SS Nascar

Old Nov 16, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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Yep. It breaks up the air versus the older style lip spoiler, thus helping solve the "Aero Push" problem when a car pulls up right behind another.
Will all cars have similar spoilers now?
Old Nov 16, 2006 | 07:13 AM
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This spoiler looks like the type you can to go Pep Boys and pick up.
Actually, it looks like a real aerodynamic device, as opposed to a piece of scrap aluminum that someone happened upon and pop-riveted to the car.
Old Nov 16, 2006 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by lil_mikey69
Will all cars have similar spoilers now?
Only the COT cars will have that. Next year NASCAR's plan is implement the car in 15 races at various tracks to get real race data on the package. Then for 2008, the COT will be rolled out in full force for the entire season.

NASCAR will hand out the spoiler to teams as they unload their cars off the the trucks before they go thru initial tech inspection, and they will supervise the installation to meet rulebook specifications.

In addition to the new wing and front end, this is what is changed on the COT from the regular NASCAR race car of today:

Windshield is more upright
Front end is higher off the ground
Greenhouse overall is larger so drivers have more room in the car to get out in case of an emergency.
The driver's position has been moved over a few inches from the left side to enhance driver safety in case of a hard impact on the driver side.
The car is wider overall so that it creates more drag.
The front end features a touring car type splitter that is adjustable to a teams preference.
Overall, the car is taller.
Old Nov 16, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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Actually, it looks like a real aerodynamic device, as opposed to a piece of scrap aluminum that someone happened upon and pop-riveted to the car.
I don't doubt that it has a real aerodynamic value to it, but it sure does look like something you'd find on the back of a Civic. Oh well, it will be interesting to see how it performs. I wonder how many times somebody will cry unfair because of the new designs.
Old Nov 17, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by shock6906
I don't doubt that it has a real aerodynamic value to it, but it sure does look like something you'd find on the back of a Civic. Oh well, it will be interesting to see how it performs. I wonder how many times somebody will cry unfair because of the new designs.
Its a shame you as well as Many other will/do think that, because touring car series have been using that same wing much longer than the posers have been hoisting them on their fast and furious shoping carts.
Old Nov 17, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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You are correct, I forgot all about that. I guess it all comes down to imitation. I always thought that they were trying to imitate the touring cars' exhaust note with their fart can mufflers to be honest. I don't know why I never thought about the spoiler.
Old Nov 18, 2006 | 07:25 AM
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NASCAR's season in 2015 is going to be "COTs" with identical suspension and aero packages, all with enormous Powered by Toyota stickers. (A hideous irony, given the technology Toyota foisted off the other manufacturers) Just wait and see.

Thats where the series is headed. Identical cars that the teams pick up at the racetrack, with changes limited to traditional pit-lane items, spring rubbers, wedge, tire pressure, etc.



Nascar could really be a great series too.
Old Nov 18, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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Nascar Died with the AeroCoupe...
Old Nov 19, 2006 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MissedShift
NASCAR's season in 2015 is going to be "COTs" with identical suspension and aero packages, all with enormous Powered by Toyota stickers. (A hideous irony, given the technology Toyota foisted off the other manufacturers) Just wait and see.

Thats where the series is headed. Identical cars that the teams pick up at the racetrack, with changes limited to traditional pit-lane items, spring rubbers, wedge, tire pressure, etc.



Nascar could really be a great series too.
It really is a shame Nascar is allowing Toyota to provide teams with the chassis and engines. There's really no point in having separate teams in that case. Pretty soon phrases like "Pure Robert Yates Horsepower" won't mean anything.
Old Nov 19, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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NASCAR sucks. there is absolutely nothing exciting about it.

I'd much rather watch open-wheel or production-based racing.
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the only excitement I could possibly think of at a NASCAR race is a huge crash involving half the field. otherwise, I have no desire to see 50 replicas of the same car with different colors on them going in a circle for 500 laps.
Amen.

Production/prototype racing is where its at. If I wanted to see 50 of one type of car run, I'd go watch a spec Miata or an old Neon challange race, at least they don't pretend to be different cars.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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It really is a shame Nascar is allowing Toyota to provide teams with the chassis and engines. There's really no point in having separate teams in that case. Pretty soon phrases like "Pure Robert Yates Horsepower" won't mean anything.
Already doesn't. All the Ford teams run Roush/Yates engines. All built in the same shop.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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Already doesn't. All the Ford teams run Roush/Yates engines. All built in the same shop.
A lot of the Ford teams have been running Yates or Roush heads and blocks for a long time now. However, it wasn't until the last 3 years that Roush and Yates put their heads together to get something going for the ford teams. However the deal was for Yates to show Roush some engine stuff and for Roush to help Yates with chassis engineering and what not. So far, in typical Roush fashion, Jack has raped Yates on the deal and has offered virtually nill to Yates in the chassis department.

Some of the independent teams though still build their own engines and dont have a Roush/Yates combo. Also NASCAR is looking into limiting Toyota from its current engine leasing program and make them open it up to level the playing field, which surprises me, because as much as Brian France loves money, I'm sure Toyota would pay him enough not to crap in their bed.
Old Nov 22, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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Nascar could really be a great series too.
Yeah maybe one day they will get things turned around and finally hit it big.






Old Nov 22, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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I think that is a pretty nice looking replacement, the Monte image is starting to get a little old with me.
Old Nov 24, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck!
It really is a shame Nascar is allowing Toyota to provide teams with the chassis and engines. There's really no point in having separate teams in that case. Pretty soon phrases like "Pure Robert Yates Horsepower" won't mean anything.

According to what Toyota/TRD said when they decided to enter Sprint/Nextel Cup was that they were going to basically only help the teams get "established", and not continuously truely factory back (unlike Dodge, except with B.D.R.) them like they had done previously with the Craftsman Truck Series teams. After helping the teams develop the Camry into a race ready product, it is going to be up to the associated teams to continue onward. Toyota/TRD in HighPoint N.C. will continue on with engine development, wind tunnel assistance, and such. But it is still going to be up to the teams for building, testing, and paying for the majority of everything.
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