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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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Angry well there goes the name...WTF I knew it!

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basically I have copied the most important part of what the conversation is. I guess one of his friends had a lunch with Lutz a few weeks ago and got some info, this guys pretty reliable and knows Lutz pretty well. And knows hes a car guy and likes talking about the new cars.

" I asked him about the new RWD platform that is on the way that will show up in alot of GM's lineup of cars. Lutz said it will be on many performance cars to halo or showcase GM's lineup. HE said GM has to get back into making a statement, thats where the American Revolution adds takes off. A new way of doing things, all those cars on that trailer mark something new for Chevy for advertising and sales but mostly for image. He goes on to tell me about more of the performance stuff. I ask him about a new RWD coupe. I said there was no performance car on their except the vette. He said GM has ideas now and he is confident that the car segment that it will fill will be more than ready for its introduction. So I said is it possible to see the return of a f body. He laughed and said, I get that question alot now. He said all the new cars comming from GM will carry basically new names. I said what about the exsisting ones that might benifit from a new platform. his answer was that if its selling good and has been it will not change. The impala for example has been a leader in Chevy sales and it would be hard pressed to change that name. I said what about the Monte Carlo. He said we will see about that. Though the Monte does have a image to alot of people not just to sales but to the image at Chevy. we shall see on that. But for anyhting new we are trying to break away from the wanted retro names that we have at our disposal. So I said to him no possibility that a RWD coupe could have the name Camaro? he laughed again, and said I know where this is going. But as far as I am concerned the Camaro has a history to it that I think Chevy has had its run with and need a new direction. Like all of the new cars at GM. I said what about the GTO. He said well, Pontiac needed a flagship car and it wasnt retro in flavor just a name that identifies Pontiac. You hear GTO you know its Pontiac. Just like Corvette you say Chevy. Thats why somethign along the lines of Camaro wouldnt fit in with Chevy now. Or for that fact any other name we would want to resurect.
He goes on to say I am trying to do what we did on at Cadillac. All the cars now at Cadillac will be new and exciting with new names. you know its Cadillac when you see it. even with new names. I want to do that with Chevy. Chevy can have a RWD Coupe with another name other than Camaro. I asked him are you sure? He said hes 99 % sure he wouldnt let it go into production like that. I asked him about the internet chatter on the new RWD car looking like a Camaro. He said its all gossip sure it can "look" like a certain Chevy car. take a look at the SS concept. That study prompts you to think of many diffrent Chevy cars, Chevelle, Corvette, Camaro. So yes the car could look like it,has chevy heritage in it, I see nothing wrong with that, but calling it a Camaro. Not something I am willing to do. But I think it could follow in ite heritage. So I said what would you call it. He said we havnt gotten over that hump yet. when we do there are millions of names we can call it, even designations of numbers or letters. So I said there will be no RWD coupe comming from GM called Camaro in the next 5 years. He said no, no car named Camaro.



here is a link to it:

http://www.cheersandgears.com/boards...OPIC_ID=126831

well there you have it...


WTF I guess we get the car, style and everything.. but not the name????
WHY?? GM yougotta be kidding me.......anything that says Camaro will be put down from Lutz.........



Old Mar 31, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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Pure BS and Conjecture....

Do you think GM would go through all this bs and politicing to demolish the plant only to name the car something else? Camaro is a very valuable name, too valuable to br ignored. Lutz is a car guy and knows that. If GM bought out the car that is being described to us...and named it something else eveyone would want their heads...and they know that. Even if this is what Bob Lutz said...he talks out his *** 90% of the time it seems. People need to stop listening to people who have a freind of a freind who's dad knows someone who works at a plant.

In closing it is possible the new car could not be called Camaro...but IMO it is still very unlikly.....very very unlikly.
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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Is this another BS joke because of tomorrow?! IF not:

NO Camaro NAME, NO SALE. I don't care what it looks like.
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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GM isn't that fool
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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These friend of a friend of a friend who knows Lutz stories get old quick. After waiting this long for the car and keeping the car's name hush hush for a long time, I highly doubt GM would just re-enter the pony car market with a car NOT called Camaro. Not to mention its the third most recognized name in the auto world. Until I hear some concrete information, real stamped in steel stuff, I'm still convinced that the "performance RWD Chevy coupe" will be named Camaro.
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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i hate it when news like this comes around april fools... it's hard to believe, yet, it isn't. i dunno what to think of this news... i guess ill get mad after april fools has passed and no one's said this was a joke lol
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 08:54 PM
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He says they don't want to use retro names, but not 3 months ago we got Pontiac friggin GTO of all things...talk about retro names! And Lutz himself pushed that project. Gotta salute the flag on this one .
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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Lets bring out retro looking cars but without retro names? Hmmmm.... April Fools, HA HA.
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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I can't stand April fools day. That has to be the most retarded idea ever. For about one month around this time, you can't take anything serious or believe anything you hear.
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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Crap, I'm headed to Lost Wages tomorrow.... "You won a million bucks!!!.... APRIL FOOLS!!!"
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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Think about it, if they won't name it Camaro, then why would they bother making it look like one? Why not start from a clean sheet of paper?
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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"You hear GTO you know its Pontiac. Just like Corvette you say Chevy. Thats why somethign along the lines of Camaro wouldnt fit in with Chevy now."

thats where I got to the believing its just b/s. When I think of chevy camaro, and vette are both at the top of the list. Camaro is as much a chevy as the vette if not more since it was the working mans performance car. Great april fools joke, close to believable but not quite.
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 11:11 PM
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Don't believe everything you read.

The Camaro Nameplate is one of the top 5 most recognized nameplates in the industry.

No hard fast decisions have been made.

You MAY recall that I gave everyone a homework assignment a few weeks back...........

As of Monday, I received a grand total of FOUR envelopes with the requested pictures in the mail.

SOOOOOOO..........

Quitcherbitchin and get me pictures!
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by Red Planet
Quitcherbitchin
That sounds like a shot drink or something.

I can't believe you've only recieved four?! Out of how many Camaro enthusiasts? I'm going to go out of my way now to find a Camaro something and make it sentimental to me so I can send you a pic of it.
Old Apr 1, 2004 | 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by Red Planet
As of Monday, I received a grand total of FOUR envelopes with the requested pictures in the mail.

SOOOOOOO..........

Quitcherbitchin and get me pictures!
I still cant think of anything to send.



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