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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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How caome Chrysler can get this car to market so quickly, and GM still dithers?

I expected the comments, this is a Camaro forum, after all- I think the Charge looks great, the proportions are classic- looks more like the orignal Camaro that the new Camaro will-

How many people will snap this up, rather than waiting for the Camaro to come out? I would drive this with no apologies-
Old Jan 18, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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The Challenger is on a existing platform "LX" (300,Charger, Magunum) so most chassis components are already in production.

The Camaro however is completely new from the ground up, everything is being developed from scratch and it takes some time.

The Challenger is only going to offer high end models, sales should be good the first year and then drop off. I only except it to be around a few years and go the way of the retro Ford Thunderbird.
Old Jan 18, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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Unlike Fords latest Thunderbird, the Challenger is going to have some ba11s, with 2 hemi motors being offered vs the tiny V8 that was standard in the Tbird. It should be good for a 5 year run.
Old Jan 18, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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Hasn't been seen yet, but word is that Jim Press ordered a whole bunch of improvements to it shortly after he joined Chrysler, so I expect it to be pretty good.
Just about anything would be an improvement over the current LX cars.
Old Jan 18, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 30thZ286speed
The Challenger is only going to offer high end models,
Incorrect. V6 and 5.7 models will be available by the end of the summer. Chrysler expects the Challenger to be in production for at least five years.
Old Jan 18, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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Just about anything would be an improvement over the current LX cars.
The 300C isn't awful, but the Dodges are pretty stark. The worst part is, those are still some of Chrysler's best interiors at the moment.
Old Jan 18, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GTOJack
Unlike Fords latest Thunderbird, the Challenger is going to have some ba11s, with 2 hemi motors being offered vs the tiny V8 that was standard in the Tbird. It should be good for a 5 year run.
Interesting how the T-bird as 2 seater luxury coupe failed now as it did in the 50's, the appeal for this sort of car seems to be as limited now as it was then.
Old Jan 19, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Incorrect. V6 and 5.7 models will be available by the end of the summer. Chrysler expects the Challenger to be in production for at least five years.

There will be no V6 Challengers, only V8 models.
Old Jan 19, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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There will be no V6 Challengers, only V8 models.
Since when?

http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html
Old Jan 19, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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Front looks too flat compared to the original and the concept.
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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I sold my 2001 z28 for my Charger and recently sold the Charger. I love the new camaro and challenger. I am having a hard time deciding which one I want to grab when they debut. The Charger was not the fastest car I ever owned but it was the best. I absolutely loved it. If the Challenger ends up being as comfortable and fun then I may end up with it........especially since it should hit the street sooner.
Old Jan 24, 2008 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 30thZ286speed
There will be no V6 Challengers, only V8 models.
In MY2008, yes. They'll all be 6.1s. But MY2009 will offer the 3.5 V8 and 5.7 as well as the 6.1, and the model year switchover will happen no later than July. So by the end of August or so you'll see V6 cars on the street -- though some people have already seen and photographed a couple on the streets around Detroit.

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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 30thZ286speed
The Challenger is on a existing platform "LX" (300,Charger, Magunum) so most chassis components are already in production.

The Camaro however is completely new from the ground up, everything is being developed from scratch and it takes some time.

The Challenger is only going to offer high end models, sales should be good the first year and then drop off. I only except it to be around a few years and go the way of the retro Ford Thunderbird.

Hasn't zeta existed in Australia for a number of years?

Isn't the camaro platform zeta.
Old Jan 24, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 2K1SunsetSS
Hasn't zeta existed in Australia for a number of years?

Isn't the camaro platform zeta.
The first production ZETA was released for the 2007 model year. I wouldn't call that "a number of years."

Camaro is also currently the only 2 door being engineered on ZETA and the Oshawa plant, formerly FWD only, has to be completely retooled to build it.

Holden doesn't have the capacity to build a high volume model like Camaro at their existing Australian plant for the u.s. market. G8 will be just niche enough to fit it in over there.

Challenger is built on the same existing line as Charger and 300.

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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 2K1SunsetSS
Hasn't zeta existed in Australia for a number of years?

Isn't the camaro platform zeta.
Zeta was in development for a little while, and then GM put it on hold. Development was restarted, and the first Zeta car just came out recently - the 2007 Holden Commodore.



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