Toyota sweats US labour costs
Toyota sweats US labour costs
It's going to be tough throttling back wages when Toyota pulls in record profits every quarter, even if compensation is increasing faster than profits.
But realistically when you look at it, the article states that Toyota pays over 2.5 times the median manufacturing wage in their geographical area. That's a tough pill to swallow (and an example of just how far a company will go to avoid the UAW). Interesting that Hyundai pays about half that and is more in line with its neighbours.
http://www.freepress.com/apps/pbcs.d...SS01/702080429
But realistically when you look at it, the article states that Toyota pays over 2.5 times the median manufacturing wage in their geographical area. That's a tough pill to swallow (and an example of just how far a company will go to avoid the UAW). Interesting that Hyundai pays about half that and is more in line with its neighbours.
http://www.freepress.com/apps/pbcs.d...SS01/702080429
Toyota Motor Corp. must hold down growth of its U.S. manufacturing wages and benefits, which are among the highest in the auto industry and are growing faster than the company's profit margin, according to a high-level company report obtained by the Free Press.
The report from Seiichi (Sean) Sudo, president of Toyota Engineering & Manufacturing in North America, said Toyota should strive to align hourly wages more closely with prevailing manufacturing pay in the state where each plant is located, "and not tie ourselves so closely to the U.S. auto industry, or other competitors."
Sudo's report to top managers said the Japan-based company projected a $900-million increase in U.S. manufacturing compensation by 2011, and human resources officials were working on trimming that by one-third.
The drive to hold down costs may boost UAW organizing efforts, if Toyota workers balk at the possibility of smaller raises, reduced benefits or greater demands for productivity gains. But the plan also illustrates that the world's most-profitable automaker is going to keep relentless pressure on Detroit and its signature industry.
The Free Press reported last week that at least some nonunion Toyota workers for the first time last year earned more than UAW assembly workers for Detroit's automakers.
Auto experts and Toyota's workers say it is ingrained in Toyota's culture to sweat over trying to save $300 million five years down the road even as the company rakes in more than $1 billion a month.
"They worry about details. They never stop worrying," said David Cole, chairman of the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor. "They encourage worrying in the company, from the top down."
The root of Sudo's worry: Labor costs as a percentage of sales are growing faster than Toyota's profit margin. "This condition is not sustainable in the long term," he said in the report.
But Toyota's plans to restructure wages and benefits may also embolden Detroit's struggling automakers, which will seek billions in concessions this summer during contract negotiations with the UAW. A recent Detroit Free Press-Local 4 Michigan Poll found that three-quarters of Michiganders say the UAW will have to make concessions to General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and the Chrysler Group.
"The companies in Detroit are going to say, 'Look, we're in dire straits here. We're going to have to follow what they do,' " said Kenny Harper, 48, who has 18 years' seniority at Toyota's flagship complex in Georgetown, Ky.
Harper, who wants the UAW to represent Toyota workers, said he disagrees with the company on principle.
"Now I can understand if the company is having a hard time," said Harper, who has been off work for 12 weeks while healing from shoulder surgery after an on-the-job injury. "I'm more than willing to work with that company to keep my job. But when they just take it because they want more, I don't agree with it at all."
Sudo's 42-page report, which was left unsecured on computers at the Georgetown plant, says, "The U.S. auto industry pays among the highest manufacturing wages in the world. Compared with Japan and France, the U.S. auto industry pays 50% higher wages and over five times more than Mexico's auto manufacturers."
The company acknowledged that the documents supplied to the Free Press were authentic.
In a memo to workers at the plant after the report was circulated, Toyota noted that workers at Georgetown earned $3 an hour more than the U.S. auto industry standard. The Free Press reported last week the workers averaged $30 an hour, including bonuses.
Currently, the median for comparable manufacturing jobs in Kentucky -- half earn more, half earn less -- is $12.64, according to the U.S. Department of Labor.
Toyota's strategy resembles what Hyundai Motor Co. uses at its plant in Montgomery, Ala. Assembly workers there make $14 an hour, about half the wages, bonuses and benefits of Toyota, Honda, Nissan and Detroit's automakers. But Hyundai's wages still are considerably higher than for comparable Alabama jobs, which pay $10.79 an hour.
"Our challenge will be how to educate team members and managers about our condition, so that they can understand and accept change," Sudo said in the report.
Among the changes would be greater use of on-site medical clinics and the introduction of on-site pharmacies to combat rising health care costs. Toyota's language regarding North American health care inflation largely echoes that of Detroit's automakers.
The issues and solutions were laid out in a plan that also addressed quality, development of people and suppliers and the 5-year production plan. The idea behind such a so-called hoshin plan is to ensure all employees understand and work toward the same long-term goals.
Richard Mason, 45, who works the second shift at Toyota's Georgetown plant, said few of his coworkers seemed concerned about Toyota's plans.
"Most people I talk to in the plants say it's no big deal, which saddens me," said Mason, who also wants union representation. "They say, 'Hey, I've got it made now. I don't really care.' "
But Harley Shaiken, a professor at the University of California, Berkeley, who specializes in labor issues, said Toyota's effort to hold down labor costs does more than empower Detroit's automakers: It promotes Toyota as the industry's new labor leader.
Nonunion automakers, with the exception of Hyundai, followed the UAW's lead to avoid unionization, Shaiken said.
"It really represents a shift in direction," Shaiken said. "Up until now the UAW set wages for the industry and the talks in Detroit."
In the follow-up memo, Toyota pointed out that workers at Georgetown and at New United Motor Manufacturing Inc. in Fremont, Calif., which Toyota owns with GM, are the highest-paid autoworkers in the United States.
UAW Local 2244 President George Nano, who represents members at Fremont, the only plant where Toyota managers must negotiate with the UAW, said Toyota is just being greedy.
His members, he said, are struggling to make ends meet in California's expensive Bay area, and he is afraid that cuts are coming.
"Right now we're making good money. We have benefits. But you can see that it's coming," Nano said about the anticipated changes. "And I'll be damned if I'm going to let them take it away."
The report from Seiichi (Sean) Sudo, president of Toyota Engineering & Manufacturing in North America, said Toyota should strive to align hourly wages more closely with prevailing manufacturing pay in the state where each plant is located, "and not tie ourselves so closely to the U.S. auto industry, or other competitors."
Sudo's report to top managers said the Japan-based company projected a $900-million increase in U.S. manufacturing compensation by 2011, and human resources officials were working on trimming that by one-third.
The drive to hold down costs may boost UAW organizing efforts, if Toyota workers balk at the possibility of smaller raises, reduced benefits or greater demands for productivity gains. But the plan also illustrates that the world's most-profitable automaker is going to keep relentless pressure on Detroit and its signature industry.
The Free Press reported last week that at least some nonunion Toyota workers for the first time last year earned more than UAW assembly workers for Detroit's automakers.
Auto experts and Toyota's workers say it is ingrained in Toyota's culture to sweat over trying to save $300 million five years down the road even as the company rakes in more than $1 billion a month.
"They worry about details. They never stop worrying," said David Cole, chairman of the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor. "They encourage worrying in the company, from the top down."
The root of Sudo's worry: Labor costs as a percentage of sales are growing faster than Toyota's profit margin. "This condition is not sustainable in the long term," he said in the report.
But Toyota's plans to restructure wages and benefits may also embolden Detroit's struggling automakers, which will seek billions in concessions this summer during contract negotiations with the UAW. A recent Detroit Free Press-Local 4 Michigan Poll found that three-quarters of Michiganders say the UAW will have to make concessions to General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and the Chrysler Group.
"The companies in Detroit are going to say, 'Look, we're in dire straits here. We're going to have to follow what they do,' " said Kenny Harper, 48, who has 18 years' seniority at Toyota's flagship complex in Georgetown, Ky.
Harper, who wants the UAW to represent Toyota workers, said he disagrees with the company on principle.
"Now I can understand if the company is having a hard time," said Harper, who has been off work for 12 weeks while healing from shoulder surgery after an on-the-job injury. "I'm more than willing to work with that company to keep my job. But when they just take it because they want more, I don't agree with it at all."
Sudo's 42-page report, which was left unsecured on computers at the Georgetown plant, says, "The U.S. auto industry pays among the highest manufacturing wages in the world. Compared with Japan and France, the U.S. auto industry pays 50% higher wages and over five times more than Mexico's auto manufacturers."
The company acknowledged that the documents supplied to the Free Press were authentic.
In a memo to workers at the plant after the report was circulated, Toyota noted that workers at Georgetown earned $3 an hour more than the U.S. auto industry standard. The Free Press reported last week the workers averaged $30 an hour, including bonuses.
Currently, the median for comparable manufacturing jobs in Kentucky -- half earn more, half earn less -- is $12.64, according to the U.S. Department of Labor.
Toyota's strategy resembles what Hyundai Motor Co. uses at its plant in Montgomery, Ala. Assembly workers there make $14 an hour, about half the wages, bonuses and benefits of Toyota, Honda, Nissan and Detroit's automakers. But Hyundai's wages still are considerably higher than for comparable Alabama jobs, which pay $10.79 an hour.
"Our challenge will be how to educate team members and managers about our condition, so that they can understand and accept change," Sudo said in the report.
Among the changes would be greater use of on-site medical clinics and the introduction of on-site pharmacies to combat rising health care costs. Toyota's language regarding North American health care inflation largely echoes that of Detroit's automakers.
The issues and solutions were laid out in a plan that also addressed quality, development of people and suppliers and the 5-year production plan. The idea behind such a so-called hoshin plan is to ensure all employees understand and work toward the same long-term goals.
Richard Mason, 45, who works the second shift at Toyota's Georgetown plant, said few of his coworkers seemed concerned about Toyota's plans.
"Most people I talk to in the plants say it's no big deal, which saddens me," said Mason, who also wants union representation. "They say, 'Hey, I've got it made now. I don't really care.' "
But Harley Shaiken, a professor at the University of California, Berkeley, who specializes in labor issues, said Toyota's effort to hold down labor costs does more than empower Detroit's automakers: It promotes Toyota as the industry's new labor leader.
Nonunion automakers, with the exception of Hyundai, followed the UAW's lead to avoid unionization, Shaiken said.
"It really represents a shift in direction," Shaiken said. "Up until now the UAW set wages for the industry and the talks in Detroit."
In the follow-up memo, Toyota pointed out that workers at Georgetown and at New United Motor Manufacturing Inc. in Fremont, Calif., which Toyota owns with GM, are the highest-paid autoworkers in the United States.
UAW Local 2244 President George Nano, who represents members at Fremont, the only plant where Toyota managers must negotiate with the UAW, said Toyota is just being greedy.
His members, he said, are struggling to make ends meet in California's expensive Bay area, and he is afraid that cuts are coming.
"Right now we're making good money. We have benefits. But you can see that it's coming," Nano said about the anticipated changes. "And I'll be damned if I'm going to let them take it away."
I understand that all companies have a responsibility to keep costs low no matter how much profit they're raking in. Still, if stories like this continue, how will the public start to percieve Toyota going forward (no pun intended)? Everyone knows they are making obscene money, and when they start talking of cutting salaries and bullying suppliers, I just have to wonder if a bit of a backlash might come. Especially when they overtake GM and suddenly THEY have the target on their back.
The irony is that Toyota is intentionally staffing up US Jobs so that they can sell their products with "Buy American" marketing. I'm sure they were fully aware that building a plant in Texas was going to be more expensive to operate than a plant a few hours away in Mexico.
Anyway, more grist for the mill that says the US healthcare system is not internationally competitive.
Anyway, more grist for the mill that says the US healthcare system is not internationally competitive.
Perhaps I'm not undertanding the article correctly but I suspect some of you are confusing a "cut" in the growth of wages with a "cut" in wages...they are not the same thing.
Regardless of how much profit a business is making or which industry it is in, there is no real justification for an employer to pay more in wages than a particular job is worth and part of what that determination is based on is the geographical location/cost of living, skillset needed, etc.
All that to say, I don't see this desire to keep wages in line as anything shocking.
As to the UAW threat, the UAW has never successfully organized any of the transplant facilities and for one primary reason, the UAW has nothing to offer.
Regardless of how much profit a business is making or which industry it is in, there is no real justification for an employer to pay more in wages than a particular job is worth and part of what that determination is based on is the geographical location/cost of living, skillset needed, etc.
All that to say, I don't see this desire to keep wages in line as anything shocking.

As to the UAW threat, the UAW has never successfully organized any of the transplant facilities and for one primary reason, the UAW has nothing to offer.
The answer is to get away from healthcare "insurance" period. Everybody should have an HSA for dr. visits, copays, etc. and the only kind of Insurance should be for catastrophic illnesses. When we all start being personally responsible for what we're spending on healthcare, the costs will come down, without any cost in terms of loss of quality of care.
The irony is that Toyota is intentionally staffing up US Jobs so that they can sell their products with "Buy American" marketing. I'm sure they were fully aware that building a plant in Texas was going to be more expensive to operate than a plant a few hours away in Mexico.
Anyway, more grist for the mill that says the US healthcare system is not internationally competitive.
Anyway, more grist for the mill that says the US healthcare system is not internationally competitive.

Foreign manufacturers are building facilities in the U.S. because overall cost per unit of a vehicle produced "here" is less than one produced "there"...of course, Toyota may use the "bragging rights" of a vehicle being built in the U.S. rather than imported but the true reason is based on finance, not marketing.
As to the healthcare system, we have a fantastic healthcare system and we don't need to change it to make "business" more "internationally competitive" and we absolutely don't need the federal government coming in to "fix" things.
What is needed is to find a better way for the private sector to deliver healthcare insurance that doesn't insulate the recipient of healthcare from the payment for the services.
Regardless of how much profit a business is making or which industry it is in, there is no real justification for an employer to pay more in wages than a particular job is worth and part of what that determination is based on is the geographical location/cost of living, skillset needed, etc.
What is needed is to find a better way for the private sector to deliver healthcare insurance that doesn't insulate the recipient of healthcare from the payment for the services.
Last edited by 90rocz; Feb 8, 2007 at 01:03 PM. Reason: typo's
The only real solution is to take insurance out of the mix for common costs. Say if your employer pays $300/mo for your insurance...instead let them give you $2400 in an HSA to spend on regular stuff, and when its gone its gone, and the rest buys you a catastrophic illness policy for if you have a kidney fail, a heart attack, or even a ruptured appendix.
The problem lies in when they find that it only takes...say...$12/hr in Kentucky...then decide that they shouldn't pay more than that in any geographic location with a higher cost of living. Which I see happening with all of the outsourcing to other states and countries.
I'd agree with this, if...the providers will stop pricing healthcare higher to deal with the negociations of the large Insurance companies.
I'd agree with this, if...the providers will stop pricing healthcare higher to deal with the negociations of the large Insurance companies.
I don't think it has squat to do with the Healthcare System. It might have to do with how Healthcare INSURANCE is distributed, bought and managed but there's nothing wrong with the healthare itself, in fact it is the best in the world. The problem is it is too expensive, and third party payer systems are not keeping a lid on costs.
But I agree that it's kinda like saying "There's nothing wrong with driving a BMW ... except you can't afford one!"
And since this is an auto and not a politics board, I will leave it at that.
Let me assure you there are much easier jobs to find in KY for $12/hour than working on an assembly line. My brother works in a rod and cable mill and is making pretty darn close to $20/hour with some mandatory overtime each week or so. Heck healthcare office staff routinely makes in excess of $12/hour.
My point is that a trend can be seen in companies offering lower wages based on how cheap they can get work done in other geographics, even threatening their current employees to take concessions or they'll up and move to those locations.
Instead of evaluating what the job is "worth", based a scientific system of any kind, they usually pick up the phone book, call around and come to a percentage of the geographic's top wages. That has now spread to a global type system, which is beginning to ignore the higher wages in the bell curve, which has generally been Union in the past.
That's one reason you find plants like Toyota in Kentucky, others include massive tax breaks, avoiding unions etc,etc...
I'm glad that Toyota is being stingy. It makes them look worse to me, the media and most whom read this. Yea they are not cutting wages but when they announce record profits on Friday and then tell their employees you won't get the same raise you got last year on Monday well it looks like they don't want to share the love. That doesn't go over well here in America.
When Lee Iococa told the Chrysler workers before he asked the US Gov. for a loan that when Chrysler made money again they wouldn't forget the workers who made the concessions. And let me say they did certainly pay back those workers when Chrysler did finally make the money again. Was it smart for business, probably not but the loyalty needed to be repaid and they did.
Toyota made their bed, they wanted to build cars here so they could say made in the USA and show how good they are to the American economy (buyer). Well its time for them to sleep in it now, the American worker isn't cheap and for decades Toyota had it easy with lower wages overseas, no pension and heathcare issues and they pounded the Domestic brands dollar for yen. Well now they are having a taste of that first hand. Welcome to the party the beer is gone, the girls left and everyone is throwing up, but we are glad you could make it!
I hope the American Toyota workers go on strike and then unionize. Sure it won't hurt Toyota's bottom line but it will tarnish their golden image in the media. Everyone knows Toyota could probably build cars cheaper and maybe with better quality in some other country but they want to look America friendly so they can devour the domestic profits like pirates to send back to Japan. Now we all just see what we already knew. They want to be the world's number one well its not as easy as it looks because they made it on the back of millions of people and its time to pay the bill! Sorry they didn't get the memo...
RANT OFF!
When Lee Iococa told the Chrysler workers before he asked the US Gov. for a loan that when Chrysler made money again they wouldn't forget the workers who made the concessions. And let me say they did certainly pay back those workers when Chrysler did finally make the money again. Was it smart for business, probably not but the loyalty needed to be repaid and they did.
Toyota made their bed, they wanted to build cars here so they could say made in the USA and show how good they are to the American economy (buyer). Well its time for them to sleep in it now, the American worker isn't cheap and for decades Toyota had it easy with lower wages overseas, no pension and heathcare issues and they pounded the Domestic brands dollar for yen. Well now they are having a taste of that first hand. Welcome to the party the beer is gone, the girls left and everyone is throwing up, but we are glad you could make it!
I hope the American Toyota workers go on strike and then unionize. Sure it won't hurt Toyota's bottom line but it will tarnish their golden image in the media. Everyone knows Toyota could probably build cars cheaper and maybe with better quality in some other country but they want to look America friendly so they can devour the domestic profits like pirates to send back to Japan. Now we all just see what we already knew. They want to be the world's number one well its not as easy as it looks because they made it on the back of millions of people and its time to pay the bill! Sorry they didn't get the memo...
RANT OFF!
Last edited by 99SilverSS; Feb 9, 2007 at 02:00 AM.
As to the UAW threat, the UAW has never successfully organized any of the transplant facilities and for one primary reason, the UAW has nothing to offer.
The UAW biggest offer is "a voice", a chance to have a say in how you are treated, how policies are implemented, and to vote if those policies seem fair.
Not a very popular concept with transplants...sure they'll pretend to hear you, but in the end they do what they want w/o regard to you.
I've worked some before, was certified in Kaizen, ISO 9000, stayed over for their meetings, and felt like I was talking to the wall. Sure they'd try to do things to make your job easier...then up your quota's...in the end you may end up working harder. Tell you mandantory O.T. was only for urgencies, then work it constantly.
A union would make them stick to their word, by making them sign a "contract"...another unpopular concept.
And there's a second reason they haven't "fully" unionized transplants...the employees are threatened to have to pay for ALL of the Medical and Life insurances...ofcouse it's off the record. And even threats or rumors that they will be fired...which they cannot do.
Sure Unions are subject to corruption, so is our Government, but I don't think we should chuck it altogether either...both are for a voice, both democratic, what America is all about.
Last edited by 90rocz; Feb 9, 2007 at 09:08 AM.


