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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by super83Z
Now I remember:

Which were actually stolen from Holden.

Haven't you heard? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Old Mar 17, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jg95z28
Which were actually stolen from Holden.

Haven't you heard? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
how can it be stolen from holden if it IS a holden with a pontiac nose???
Old Mar 17, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jcamere94z28
how can it be stolen from holden if it IS a holden with a pontiac nose???
Old Sep 30, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Gold_Rush
Looks nice. But like the Hyundai version, not offering a v6 is a mistake considering every other sedan in that class offers one.
No, but it will have a 2.0L turbocharged 4 cylinder with 274 hp, weighs under 3300 lbs, and will return 22/34 mpg. That's pretty impressive.

Only problem I see with it is the turbo motor will only be offered with a 6-speed auto. No manual option.
Old Sep 30, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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Hmmm where have I seen those fender vents before?
Don't forget the CTS as well.



Old Sep 30, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by eman
No, but it will have a 2.0L turbocharged 4 cylinder with 274 hp, weighs under 3300 lbs, and will return 22/34 mpg. That's pretty impressive.

Only problem I see with it is the turbo motor will only be offered with a 6-speed auto. No manual option.
Yeah. I don't think the turbo 2.0L was announced back when i made that post or maybe it was announced and i missed out on it. The turbo 2.0L more than makes up for the lack of v6.
Old Sep 30, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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Looks like the Ford Taurus and the Toyota Camry got together and had a kid!
Old Oct 1, 2010 | 02:01 AM
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Actually Hyundai has used it for a while on cars like the Tiburon.

Old Oct 1, 2010 | 07:47 AM
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Their turbo 4 rocks. It's a nice balance between hp and gas miliage. Hyundai is a company to look out for. They are on a roll and I am by no means a fanboy or have I owned one of their cars.
Old Oct 5, 2010 | 08:59 AM
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Their turbo 4 rocks. It's a nice balance between hp and gas miliage. Hyundai is a company to look out for. They are on a roll and I am by no means a fanboy or have I owned one of their cars.
Too bad their drivetrains are weaksauce. It's the missing link.

Our 2004 Elantra has been extra reliable, no true problems but the quality of the materials and durability of the original fit and finish are sub-par. Reliable, efficient, YES. Durable.... I don't know... My 85 Merkur is more solid, and that's 25 years old!
Old Oct 5, 2010 | 09:01 AM
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So this is just the Kia version of the Sonata? How long before the public realizes they are the same cars and they star stealing sales away from each other.
Old Oct 5, 2010 | 08:00 PM
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So this is just the Kia version of the Sonata? How long before the public realizes they are the same cars and they star stealing sales away from each other.
yes but since the styling is totally different---each car would appeal (in theory) to different buyers. I'd take the Kia--with some nice looking wheels--but not the Hyundai (jelly beanish--not masculine styling)
Old Oct 5, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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So now the Koreans are trying to get into Pontiac's old market?
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