BTW, those that went over the bumpy section of road at the Mustang Drive report that there wasn't one speak or rattle. Ford has done a great job of making a very stiff frame with a great suspension that is still very smooth and soft on the body.

Also, I want to mention this since one of the Camaro people that drove the car mentioned it. He said that sitting in the Mustang no longer makes you feel like you're sitting up high. He said you sit like your more like in a Camaro, but easier to get in and out. Sounds like the best of both worlds.

 

But it is wider... Nicer rims You can go after market for that (most people do). They say the ride hight will be lower than what many of the mules were.

 

I see quite a few Camaro owners going to the blue oval.

Uhh...............Not a chance in he** that I will be. I don't like Mustangs, never have, never will. I find the new Mustang way to retro and not appealing at all.

 

Wonder how long that squeekless chassis will last? Its not like they went over a bumpy section of road in a car with 100K miles on it.

And isn't that low seat feeling one of the complaints among Camaro owners? (non-enthusiast)

I shall never jump ship...but if my g/f buys one, I won't complain

 

Maybe you're referring to my report PT. I sat in it...but wasn't allowed to drive it.

The driving position reminded me more of my IROC-Z than the upright position in an SN95.

It was like a 3rd gen...in the way you sat abit lower....but with modern ergonomics. I think visibility would also be better than my 3rd gen.....certainly way better than a 4th gen.

 

Actually there's about a half dozen reports over at www.themustangsource.com of people that have actually driven it. Including video! One of those is a 4th gen owner He absolutely loves the car.

P.S. - You lucky dog! I haven't even had a chance to sit in one. I live in BFE now and probably won't until they show up on dealer lots. I have however seen it in person and it's very nice.

 

Hard core bowtie Camaro enthusiasts won't jump ship.

Unfortunately, this group wasn't enough to keep Camaro alive in the 1st place, let alone worrying about anyone jumping ship.

 

Which is why I think the next Camaro could be in big trouble if not executed properly (which I believe they will do for the most part). It has to appeal to more consumers in a Mustang like way.

 

G, you of all people should know that sales alone did not kill the f-body. Car models usually suffer loss of sales near the end of their run. If there had been a new 5th gen waiting in the wings for 2003, sales would have taken a drastic upturn. One only needs to look at each previous generation to see that.

BTW-Did you get my PM about the LS6 TA?

 

even though i'm seriously considering it, i'm only halfway sold on the stang in the current GT form...for me, it needs more power (which i know is coming from future SVT products) and better looks (ditching those big-a$$ fogs and whittling down the tail will go a long way)...imo, they made a mistake by showing two very radical concepts after the original design was finalized...visually, the exterior of the GTR and original concept was much better and I'm hoping more of their visual cues get incorporated into the car...an IRS wouldn't hurt, either...If the people from that Top Gear TV show made such a big deal about the Corvette suspension, I dread to think what they would say about a solid axle.

btw..congrats to ford to keeping the weight somewhat managable...I was pretty certain in my prediction awhile ago that the car would end up in the 3600-3700 lb range, and thankfully they proved me wrong

 

Not necessarily. Haven't we been given hints so far that the next Chevy performance coupe is not going to be made on an extremely massive scale like the Mustang? That way it can still conform somewhat to the enthusiasts tastes, like the 4th gen did in a lot of ways (and it still sold extremely well in the early 4th gen years).

 

Pricing isn't that much more than the current Sn95. Big ups on that one.

 

Because of all the rebates and 0% financing that been on the current Stang for the last few years you could easily get one for $3000-$5000 below MSRP. So in otherwords the all new 2005 Stang will be about $5000+ more then the current Stang since you wont be getting any special rebates or 0% financing any time soon and thats not even including dealer gouging/markup that you know will occur for the first year.

The car industry has become smarter over the last few years by keeping the MSRP's around the same but raising the prices on the options and creating special option-packages the require you to spend on huge lump some of cash to get the few options you really want.

 

I don't think the fact that the 4th gen interior was not exactly of quality build and material is not even arguable. It's no mystery that they are cheap and i don't think it ever has been. I fully expect a completely redesigned model in the year 2005 to have a far superior interior quality - especially givne how big a deal interior qualities have become as of late. The expectations seem to be different. 15 years ago I think peopel had completely different expectations for what a cheap sports car interior shoudl look and feel like compared to what they have to day. The bar has been raised.

 

Donīt like retro, but owns a 71 and an 84 trans am?