Solstice Sizzles
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Solstice Sizzles
Sleek and voluptuous Pontiac hugs curves and turns heads
By Paul Lienert / Special to The Detroit News
GM / Pontiac
Simplicity is one of Solstice's virtues. The top is easy to put up and down.
...She certainly wasn't alone. Everywhere we traveled in the new Solstice -- it didn't matter if the top was up or down -- people stopped, ogled, pointed, commented or just plain drooled. Few cars elicit this sort of universal positive response, one that cuts across age and gender lines.
In the grocery store parking lot, a 10-year-boy stared, slack-jawed, as we drove by, while his thirtysomething father couldn't seem to wipe the goofy grin off his face. We drove past the local Blockbuster, and overheard a teenage girl observe to her mother, "Wow, sweet car!"
To which mom responded: "Sure is!"
Uh-oh. Generational researchers and demographic pundits aren't going to be happy with the Solstice one little bit -- not when mother and teenage daughter agree on the hipness factor.
We observed this same sort of unbridled behavior when we first tested the Mini Cooper, Chrysler PT Cruiser and Volkswagen New Beetle, all cars that elicited broad smiles and double-takes from a wide range of onlookers when they first hit the street. Of course, all three cars ultimately found a relatively narrow audience of buyers, mainly older and mostly female.
We're not convinced that the Solstice will settle into the same pattern.
The little two-seater doesn't have the raw power of a Chrysler 300C Hemi or nostalgic appeal of a Ford Mustang. But the Solstice packs a visceral punch from almost any angle and exhibits the agility of a large cat. It manages to blend decent, if not overwhelming acceleration with better-than-average gas mileage. And, with a sticker price of just under $20,000, it's shockingly affordable.
We'd venture to say, with little risk of contradiction, that the 2006 Pontiac Solstice is the sexiest car in America. And, judging from the initial consumer response, highly desirable.
It is not, of course, without flaws. As sleek and voluptuous as its exterior skin is, the inside of the Solstice looks flat and uninspired -- a bit reminiscent of the boring, monochromatic cabin in the original BMW Z3. Pontiac has used high-quality materials in the cockpit, but the designers didn't seem to spend as much time here as they did on the outside.
There are comfort and convenience issues, too. The bucket seats need more lumbar support, and the rake adjustment for the seat back is difficult to reach. The tiny, deep-set fuel gauge is almost impossible to read. And there is no convenient place, outside of a little cubby behind the driver, to store such items as cell phone, house keys and garage door opener.
Even with the top up, there is very little cargo space in the teeny trunk. We wanted to drop the top on the way home from the convenience store -- and discovered that we had to stash our two bags in the passenger seat to stow the convertible.
Aw, but who the heck cares? We're talking entertainment, not functionality. You want utility? Buy an SUV or a station wagon.
The Solstice delivers on the promise of excitement that is inherent in its sexy shape. The car is just plain fun to drive, as we discovered on a sultry late-summer evening with the top down on Huron River Drive. This twisty, scenic road in rural Washtenaw County is one of our favorite test routes. The posted speed limit is a modest 35 miles an hour, but the constant dips and bends in the road provide a good measure of a car's dexterity and responsiveness.
Let us assure you, the Solstice was made for Huron River Drive. The car felt like it was riveted to the pavement, effortlessly hugging each curve as we sliced through the twilight along the river. That's partly a function of the extra-stiff frame rails, all-independent suspension and beefy stabilizer bars. The chassis employs Bilstein coil-over shocks and unequal-length arms at both ends, and rides on fat, 18-inch Goodyear Eagle RSA performance tires. Although we felt some impact harshness over bumps and rutted surfaces, the ride for the most part is firm, yet composed.
We'd guess that a bobsled must feel a bit like this -- responding crisply, almost intuitively to the slightest nudge of the steering or touch of the brakes. There is a direct connection with the road that is sorely lacking in most other vehicles today, and a bracing, almost elemental sensation, especially with the top down, that is virtually priceless.
We've heard some complaints from other motoring journalists about the perceived lack of muscle from the twin-cam Ecotec 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine, which produces 177 horsepower and 166 pounds-feet of torque. That compares with 170 horsepower and 140 pounds-feet from the twin-cam 2.0-liter four-cylinder in the redesigned 2006 Mazda MX-5 Miata, the Solstice's closest and really only direct competitor. (The Miata, incidentally, starts at $21,000.)
While we would like to see a bit more mid-range torque and power for passing on the freeway, we weren't too concerned. Acceleration at lower speeds is perfectly adequate, and the standard five-speed manual gearbox is satisfyingly simple, sweet and oh-so-direct.
Speaking of simplicity, it is surely one of the Solstice's virtues. The top is easy to put up and down, requiring little more than a twist of the center lever and a flip of the wrists. While the overall theme tends toward minimalism, our test car was fitted with a few amenities -- power windows and mirrors, tilt steering column, cruise control, air conditioning, a CD player -- that made the journey that much more pleasant without detracting from the driving experience.
On the safety front, we are not impressed. Where the MX-5 comes with standard antilock brakes and side air bags, you'll have to pay extra for ABS on the Solstice and you can't even order side bags -- an oversight that knocks this otherwise sensational sports car down a peg in our view.
In the final tally, however, the assets strongly outweigh the imperfections in the Solstice. So much so, in fact, that we're surprised Pontiac dealers aren't charging more of a premium -- yet -- for the car despite the fact that General Motors Corp. can't even begin to keep up with the initial demand. With more than 13,000 orders as of early September, GM expects to be able to deliver only 7,000 Solstices to customers by the end of the year. That means if you put your order in right now, it may be spring before you can take delivery.
You should also know that the 2006 Solstice is an early frontrunner for Car of the Year.
And, yes, it's definitely worth the wait.
http://www.detnews.com/2005/autoscon...F01-313974.htm
Solstice Sizzles
Sleek and voluptuous Pontiac hugs curves and turns heads
By Paul Lienert / Special to The Detroit News
GM / Pontiac
Simplicity is one of Solstice's virtues. The top is easy to put up and down.
...She certainly wasn't alone. Everywhere we traveled in the new Solstice -- it didn't matter if the top was up or down -- people stopped, ogled, pointed, commented or just plain drooled. Few cars elicit this sort of universal positive response, one that cuts across age and gender lines.
In the grocery store parking lot, a 10-year-boy stared, slack-jawed, as we drove by, while his thirtysomething father couldn't seem to wipe the goofy grin off his face. We drove past the local Blockbuster, and overheard a teenage girl observe to her mother, "Wow, sweet car!"
To which mom responded: "Sure is!"
Uh-oh. Generational researchers and demographic pundits aren't going to be happy with the Solstice one little bit -- not when mother and teenage daughter agree on the hipness factor.
We observed this same sort of unbridled behavior when we first tested the Mini Cooper, Chrysler PT Cruiser and Volkswagen New Beetle, all cars that elicited broad smiles and double-takes from a wide range of onlookers when they first hit the street. Of course, all three cars ultimately found a relatively narrow audience of buyers, mainly older and mostly female.
We're not convinced that the Solstice will settle into the same pattern.
The little two-seater doesn't have the raw power of a Chrysler 300C Hemi or nostalgic appeal of a Ford Mustang. But the Solstice packs a visceral punch from almost any angle and exhibits the agility of a large cat. It manages to blend decent, if not overwhelming acceleration with better-than-average gas mileage. And, with a sticker price of just under $20,000, it's shockingly affordable.
We'd venture to say, with little risk of contradiction, that the 2006 Pontiac Solstice is the sexiest car in America. And, judging from the initial consumer response, highly desirable.
It is not, of course, without flaws. As sleek and voluptuous as its exterior skin is, the inside of the Solstice looks flat and uninspired -- a bit reminiscent of the boring, monochromatic cabin in the original BMW Z3. Pontiac has used high-quality materials in the cockpit, but the designers didn't seem to spend as much time here as they did on the outside.
There are comfort and convenience issues, too. The bucket seats need more lumbar support, and the rake adjustment for the seat back is difficult to reach. The tiny, deep-set fuel gauge is almost impossible to read. And there is no convenient place, outside of a little cubby behind the driver, to store such items as cell phone, house keys and garage door opener.
Even with the top up, there is very little cargo space in the teeny trunk. We wanted to drop the top on the way home from the convenience store -- and discovered that we had to stash our two bags in the passenger seat to stow the convertible.
Aw, but who the heck cares? We're talking entertainment, not functionality. You want utility? Buy an SUV or a station wagon.
The Solstice delivers on the promise of excitement that is inherent in its sexy shape. The car is just plain fun to drive, as we discovered on a sultry late-summer evening with the top down on Huron River Drive. This twisty, scenic road in rural Washtenaw County is one of our favorite test routes. The posted speed limit is a modest 35 miles an hour, but the constant dips and bends in the road provide a good measure of a car's dexterity and responsiveness.
Let us assure you, the Solstice was made for Huron River Drive. The car felt like it was riveted to the pavement, effortlessly hugging each curve as we sliced through the twilight along the river. That's partly a function of the extra-stiff frame rails, all-independent suspension and beefy stabilizer bars. The chassis employs Bilstein coil-over shocks and unequal-length arms at both ends, and rides on fat, 18-inch Goodyear Eagle RSA performance tires. Although we felt some impact harshness over bumps and rutted surfaces, the ride for the most part is firm, yet composed.
We'd guess that a bobsled must feel a bit like this -- responding crisply, almost intuitively to the slightest nudge of the steering or touch of the brakes. There is a direct connection with the road that is sorely lacking in most other vehicles today, and a bracing, almost elemental sensation, especially with the top down, that is virtually priceless.
We've heard some complaints from other motoring journalists about the perceived lack of muscle from the twin-cam Ecotec 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine, which produces 177 horsepower and 166 pounds-feet of torque. That compares with 170 horsepower and 140 pounds-feet from the twin-cam 2.0-liter four-cylinder in the redesigned 2006 Mazda MX-5 Miata, the Solstice's closest and really only direct competitor. (The Miata, incidentally, starts at $21,000.)
While we would like to see a bit more mid-range torque and power for passing on the freeway, we weren't too concerned. Acceleration at lower speeds is perfectly adequate, and the standard five-speed manual gearbox is satisfyingly simple, sweet and oh-so-direct.
Speaking of simplicity, it is surely one of the Solstice's virtues. The top is easy to put up and down, requiring little more than a twist of the center lever and a flip of the wrists. While the overall theme tends toward minimalism, our test car was fitted with a few amenities -- power windows and mirrors, tilt steering column, cruise control, air conditioning, a CD player -- that made the journey that much more pleasant without detracting from the driving experience.
On the safety front, we are not impressed. Where the MX-5 comes with standard antilock brakes and side air bags, you'll have to pay extra for ABS on the Solstice and you can't even order side bags -- an oversight that knocks this otherwise sensational sports car down a peg in our view.
In the final tally, however, the assets strongly outweigh the imperfections in the Solstice. So much so, in fact, that we're surprised Pontiac dealers aren't charging more of a premium -- yet -- for the car despite the fact that General Motors Corp. can't even begin to keep up with the initial demand. With more than 13,000 orders as of early September, GM expects to be able to deliver only 7,000 Solstices to customers by the end of the year. That means if you put your order in right now, it may be spring before you can take delivery.
You should also know that the 2006 Solstice is an early frontrunner for Car of the Year.
And, yes, it's definitely worth the wait.
http://www.detnews.com/2005/autoscon...F01-313974.htm
Last edited by SSbaby; Sep 14, 2005 at 01:44 AM.
Re: Solstice Sizzles
Wow, Paul Lienert from the Detroit News wrote a favorable review of an American car?
I think that cracking sound is hell freezing over.
For once, him and that wife of his didn't dwell on the fact that the car doesn't have a 9000 cubic foot trunk, pedestrian safety controls, complete encapsulating foam auto air bag device, navigation, 19 speeds in reverse, etc.
The way him and her review cars, every single car should have all the features and storage capability of a loaded Escalade, with all the safety features of a car from 2022( or whatever year Demolition Man is supossed to take place in), the power of a top fuel dragster and the gas mileage of a Prius. It should also cost $12,000.00
Even if it did all of that, if it was made by an American car company, it would still have some major flaws.
I think that cracking sound is hell freezing over.
For once, him and that wife of his didn't dwell on the fact that the car doesn't have a 9000 cubic foot trunk, pedestrian safety controls, complete encapsulating foam auto air bag device, navigation, 19 speeds in reverse, etc.
The way him and her review cars, every single car should have all the features and storage capability of a loaded Escalade, with all the safety features of a car from 2022( or whatever year Demolition Man is supossed to take place in), the power of a top fuel dragster and the gas mileage of a Prius. It should also cost $12,000.00
Even if it did all of that, if it was made by an American car company, it would still have some major flaws.
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Can you imagine the reviews GM woudl get on cars if they actually released the top model first, instead of the base model first? Just think if reviewers had the Solstice with the (what's it getting again, a turbo or supercharger?)
GM would always get better press if they would just start doing this. It's crazy. Then, the hype around the upscale, higher powered models would bring people into the show room, and heaven forbid, they would buy the more expensive model or at the very least, settle on the lesser model.
GM would always get better press if they would just start doing this. It's crazy. Then, the hype around the upscale, higher powered models would bring people into the show room, and heaven forbid, they would buy the more expensive model or at the very least, settle on the lesser model.
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Originally Posted by General Z
what's it getting again, a turbo or supercharger?
Im woundering it they will drop a LS1, LS2 or a LS7 in to it???
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Originally Posted by MotorCityNova572
I do beleave it will be Turbo-Charged...
Im woundering it they will drop a LS1, LS2 or a LS7 in to it??? 
Im woundering it they will drop a LS1, LS2 or a LS7 in to it??? 
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It would be really cool, but even if it fit, I don't see GM doing it. Maybe an aftermarket company, but with the GTO, Corvette, XLR, and future Camaro, I don't see the Solstice with a V8. It doesn't seem to fit. I don't see the Solstice as a halo car and that's what it would seem like it was trying to be.
I guess it is a halo in that it brings people into the dealership, but not a halo like the other models mentioned.
Course, it does look 9000 times better than the "need to be an entusiast to notice it in traffic" GTO
I guess it is a halo in that it brings people into the dealership, but not a halo like the other models mentioned.
Course, it does look 9000 times better than the "need to be an entusiast to notice it in traffic" GTO
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Yes, the biggest shocker about the Solstice is the photo that's floating around at Corvetteforum, showing a (real) Solstice and C6 sitting side by side. The Solstice looks like a much MORE expensive car than the C6.
This car is a runaway hit. Please bring the turbo version ASAP.
And for the V8 naysayers, Mallet has already stated they're doing an LS2 conversion. The V8 fits. And it only weighs about 100 lbs more than the Ecotec.
This car is a runaway hit. Please bring the turbo version ASAP.
And for the V8 naysayers, Mallet has already stated they're doing an LS2 conversion. The V8 fits. And it only weighs about 100 lbs more than the Ecotec.
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But how much more will all the running gear weigh that must accompany the v8 to deal with its torque output. My guess is the Solstice with a v8 will end up weighing pretty similiar to a vette anyways, when all is said and done. I know I wouldn't want to leave the Solstice's 5 speed and rear end in a car sporting an ls2.
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I'll tell ya what.
I was riding my bicycle (yes..) to Autozone yesterday, and this little black car caught my eye. Almost made me hit the fence to the left of me.
Behold it was a solitice.. That car is truly an eye-catcher although i somewhat prefer the sky
I was riding my bicycle (yes..) to Autozone yesterday, and this little black car caught my eye. Almost made me hit the fence to the left of me.
Behold it was a solitice.. That car is truly an eye-catcher although i somewhat prefer the sky
Re: Solstice Sizzles
Originally Posted by General Z
Can you imagine the reviews GM woudl get on cars if they actually released the top model first, instead of the base model first? Just think if reviewers had the Solstice with the (what's it getting again, a turbo or supercharger?)
GM would always get better press if they would just start doing this. It's crazy. Then, the hype around the upscale, higher powered models would bring people into the show room, and heaven forbid, they would buy the more expensive model or at the very least, settle on the lesser model.
GM would always get better press if they would just start doing this. It's crazy. Then, the hype around the upscale, higher powered models would bring people into the show room, and heaven forbid, they would buy the more expensive model or at the very least, settle on the lesser model.
1. They get twice the media coverage: once when the car is introduced, and then again when all the magazines have to test the hotted up version.
2. It lets them advertise a lower price point to get the public interested (Solstice under $20,000!).
3. It gives them more time to engineer the go-fast version, which is generally more complicated.
4. It helps even out demand by letting all the people who don't care about performance buy the base version. Then demand can ease a bit and pick up again when the performance version comes out.


