sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.
12-08-2011, 08:40 AM
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.
That does look sharp. But I have the same concern I have about the new Charger. That is, how crappy is it going to look when some of those damn LEDs start inevitably going out?
12-08-2011, 09:34 AM
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.
I've thought about the LED issue myself, as we've sold several new Chargers, and there is a tri-coat red RT in my showroom I've been trying to convince my wife she needs 
I've gotta think that Chrysler would be thinking along those lines, and try to make it somewhat easy to repair them. In reality, who the hell knows. All I know is, its DAMN nice to be sitting in a Chrysler showroom these days. On one side of my floor desk, I've got a 370hp Charger RT with an 8.4" touchscreen Alpine stereo with NAV and heated/cooled cupholders (absolutely epic in cold weather)...a 31 MPG 4,000 lb luxury-lined 300 Limited...and a Grand Cherokee Overland Summit with everything but the kitchen sink in it (including adaptive cruise).
On the other side of me, I've got a 283hp 6 speed Wrangler with absolutely NO competition whatsoever (if you bring up the FJ I will slap you...are they even made anymore?)...a 29 MPG 283hp, 0-60 in 6 flat Chrysler 200 that indeed is not perfect, but when loaded to the gills for $27k, it makes a great car for the money...or how about a Journey, with probably the nicest interior of anything we sell, which is saying a lot considering the new interiors we have now.
Throw some trucks and minivans in the mix, and all I'm missing is a nice compact car like this, and a better compact SUV, which is coming next Summer.
We've come a long, long way since bankruptcy...let alone the days, and vehicles, leading up to it. Last month, we sold the most new cars we've sold since Employee Pricing, if that tells you anything...
I've gotta think that Chrysler would be thinking along those lines, and try to make it somewhat easy to repair them. In reality, who the hell knows. All I know is, its DAMN nice to be sitting in a Chrysler showroom these days. On one side of my floor desk, I've got a 370hp Charger RT with an 8.4" touchscreen Alpine stereo with NAV and heated/cooled cupholders (absolutely epic in cold weather)...a 31 MPG 4,000 lb luxury-lined 300 Limited...and a Grand Cherokee Overland Summit with everything but the kitchen sink in it (including adaptive cruise).
On the other side of me, I've got a 283hp 6 speed Wrangler with absolutely NO competition whatsoever (if you bring up the FJ I will slap you...are they even made anymore?)...a 29 MPG 283hp, 0-60 in 6 flat Chrysler 200 that indeed is not perfect, but when loaded to the gills for $27k, it makes a great car for the money...or how about a Journey, with probably the nicest interior of anything we sell, which is saying a lot considering the new interiors we have now.
Throw some trucks and minivans in the mix, and all I'm missing is a nice compact car like this, and a better compact SUV, which is coming next Summer.
We've come a long, long way since bankruptcy...let alone the days, and vehicles, leading up to it. Last month, we sold the most new cars we've sold since Employee Pricing, if that tells you anything...
12-08-2011, 12:11 PM
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.
12-08-2011, 12:25 PM
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.
The LEDs should last the life of the car. With that said I'm sure there are still a few that are bound to fail early. LEDs would always fail in the radio or dash too. I'm not too worried about it, lots of companies are using LEDs everywhere on the cars now.
12-08-2011, 12:27 PM
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.
12-08-2011, 11:26 PM
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.
Took many years for them to start going out on those final years the T-bird had them, and even then it was only a couple bulbs after being around nearly a decade.
I've thought about the LED issue myself, as we've sold several new Chargers, and there is a tri-coat red RT in my showroom I've been trying to convince my wife she needs
I've gotta think that Chrysler would be thinking along those lines, and try to make it somewhat easy to repair them. In reality, who the hell knows. All I know is, its DAMN nice to be sitting in a Chrysler showroom these days. On one side of my floor desk, I've got a 370hp Charger RT with an 8.4" touchscreen Alpine stereo with NAV and heated/cooled cupholders (absolutely epic in cold weather)...a 31 MPG 4,000 lb luxury-lined 300 Limited...and a Grand Cherokee Overland Summit with everything but the kitchen sink in it (including adaptive cruise).
On the other side of me, I've got a 283hp 6 speed Wrangler with absolutely NO competition whatsoever (if you bring up the FJ I will slap you...are they even made anymore?)...a 29 MPG 283hp, 0-60 in 6 flat Chrysler 200 that indeed is not perfect, but when loaded to the gills for $27k, it makes a great car for the money...or how about a Journey, with probably the nicest interior of anything we sell, which is saying a lot considering the new interiors we have now.
Throw some trucks and minivans in the mix, and all I'm missing is a nice compact car like this, and a better compact SUV, which is coming next Summer.
We've come a long, long way since bankruptcy...let alone the days, and vehicles, leading up to it. Last month, we sold the most new cars we've sold since Employee Pricing, if that tells you anything...
I've gotta think that Chrysler would be thinking along those lines, and try to make it somewhat easy to repair them. In reality, who the hell knows. All I know is, its DAMN nice to be sitting in a Chrysler showroom these days. On one side of my floor desk, I've got a 370hp Charger RT with an 8.4" touchscreen Alpine stereo with NAV and heated/cooled cupholders (absolutely epic in cold weather)...a 31 MPG 4,000 lb luxury-lined 300 Limited...and a Grand Cherokee Overland Summit with everything but the kitchen sink in it (including adaptive cruise).
On the other side of me, I've got a 283hp 6 speed Wrangler with absolutely NO competition whatsoever (if you bring up the FJ I will slap you...are they even made anymore?)...a 29 MPG 283hp, 0-60 in 6 flat Chrysler 200 that indeed is not perfect, but when loaded to the gills for $27k, it makes a great car for the money...or how about a Journey, with probably the nicest interior of anything we sell, which is saying a lot considering the new interiors we have now.
Throw some trucks and minivans in the mix, and all I'm missing is a nice compact car like this, and a better compact SUV, which is coming next Summer.
We've come a long, long way since bankruptcy...let alone the days, and vehicles, leading up to it. Last month, we sold the most new cars we've sold since Employee Pricing, if that tells you anything...
Long way indeed!
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12-13-2011, 08:16 AM
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.
They just released some info on the interior. I think it is great that they are going with red lighting. I always loved that about my Pontiac.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/13/2...ails-revealed/
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/13/2...ails-revealed/
12-13-2011, 08:57 AM
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.
On paper, it looks like Dodge is going to have a winner on their hands. I hope there is an option for an analog speedo. I don't care much for the digital one. Now, we just have to wait a month for this lady to lift up her skirt, and show us her goods...
12-13-2011, 01:57 PM
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.
They just released some info on the interior. I think it is great that they are going with red lighting. I always loved that about my Pontiac.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/13/2...ails-revealed/
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/13/2...ails-revealed/
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12-14-2011, 11:41 AM
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.
I tend to agree.
I went with my younger brother and his family to the San Francisco Int'l Autoshow recently. He has an infant daughter and is looking for a "family" car to replace his aging Subaru WRX sedan. I'd consider my brother a car-guy like me. Like me, he buys cars to last. His first car was the '68 Camaro RS I handed down to him. He replaced that with a Toyota Tacoma (which he still owns) and later purchased the Subaru for his wife's primarly vehicle when they first moved in together.
My brother wants a vehicle that can tow a tent trailer (~5000 lb towing capacity) but that will also serve as his wife's daily driver. Being a GM and primarly a Chevy guy, I met them the Chevrolet display. What a disappointment. While my brother and his wife like the size and proportions of the Traverse, they hated the look of the front nose. This applied to pretty much everything in Chevy's booth. I primarily went to see the 2013 Malibu in person. While my brother liked the looks better than the crossover/SUVs, he said it looked like a Chevrolet Camry, and that the current Malibu looked like a Chevrolet Accord. (I guess I can see his point.) Clearly the best looking vehicles and booth at the show was the Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep exhibit. They really are producing some good looking vehicles. The new Grand Cherokee is possibly the best looking SUV on the market, and the new Charger imho is the best looking large sedan. Not to take anything away from Cadillac, which I also think makes nice looking vehicles... they're just priced out of my price-point.
FWIW, my brother is leaning toward the VW Touareg TDi.
I went with my younger brother and his family to the San Francisco Int'l Autoshow recently. He has an infant daughter and is looking for a "family" car to replace his aging Subaru WRX sedan. I'd consider my brother a car-guy like me. Like me, he buys cars to last. His first car was the '68 Camaro RS I handed down to him. He replaced that with a Toyota Tacoma (which he still owns) and later purchased the Subaru for his wife's primarly vehicle when they first moved in together.
My brother wants a vehicle that can tow a tent trailer (~5000 lb towing capacity) but that will also serve as his wife's daily driver. Being a GM and primarly a Chevy guy, I met them the Chevrolet display. What a disappointment. While my brother and his wife like the size and proportions of the Traverse, they hated the look of the front nose. This applied to pretty much everything in Chevy's booth. I primarily went to see the 2013 Malibu in person. While my brother liked the looks better than the crossover/SUVs, he said it looked like a Chevrolet Camry, and that the current Malibu looked like a Chevrolet Accord. (I guess I can see his point.) Clearly the best looking vehicles and booth at the show was the Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep exhibit. They really are producing some good looking vehicles. The new Grand Cherokee is possibly the best looking SUV on the market, and the new Charger imho is the best looking large sedan. Not to take anything away from Cadillac, which I also think makes nice looking vehicles... they're just priced out of my price-point.
FWIW, my brother is leaning toward the VW Touareg TDi.