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Old 12-06-2011, 10:55 AM
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Thumbs up sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/06/2...sedan-segment/

So far I like what I see.
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.

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Hoping for the SRT-4...
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.

That looks pretty ncie from what I can see so far.

Onyl thing I think I might end up not liking so far is what probably is an extended lower black grille thing, like Audi and some others do that I dont care for.
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.

More info = http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...e-dart-107382/

It looks like a 9 speed automatic is going to be an option too.
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.

9 FREAKIN' SPEEDS? Really?!?
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.

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9 FREAKIN' SPEEDS? Really?!?
man if it's tuned for MPG's I can imagine it will be quite annoying
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.

I supposed it will be asking too much for a coupe, and not a min runt station wagon wannabe hatchback like 2 doors seem to have become these days?
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.

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It looks like a 9 speed automatic is going to be an option too.
This is getting ridiculous...
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.

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Hoping for the SRT-4...
CAFE will see that you wont see one. Same reason we wont see a Cruze SS.
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.

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CAFE will see that you wont see one. Same reason we wont see a Cruze SS.
CAFE is not the reason there is no Cruze SS. It also wouldn't stop a SRT4. Modern turbo 4's get great mileage.
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.

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CAFE will see that you wont see one. Same reason we wont see a Cruze SS.
Wrong..
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.

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Wrong..
We shall see. The Cobalt SS was a cool car, but it didnt get nearly the mileage of a regular Cobalt. With CAFE going to 54 mpg the manufacturers dont have enough room to even make the 4 banger hotrods anymore. How many Volts do you have to sell to reach that number? And what if nobody buys them? I was at the Chevy dealer on Saturday and they had 4 Volts on the lot. They are going to save the hotrod type stuff for the Vettes and Camaros.
If they build a 280 hp Cruze or Sonic like the Cobalt SS I will eat my words, but I dont see it happening.
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.

Someone needs to give the Focus ST, Golf GTI, and Mazdaspeed3, some competition.
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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.

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CAFE will see that you wont see one. Same reason we wont see a Cruze SS.
No Cruize SS or SRT4 due to CAFE???

Yet 556 horse CTSs, 470 horse ATSs, 650 horse Shelbys, a 580 horse Camaros, and 470 horse 2 ton Challengers Chargers , and 300s have no problems? You're kidding, right?

You don't currently see a Cruise SS for the same reason you don't currently see a Cruze hatchback. GM simply decided not to sell one at this time.

FWIW, there is a turbo version of the Dart in the works. Whether it's called SRT or not is (again) the decision made by the manufacturer, not CAFE.

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Re: sneak peak at the 2013 Dodge Dart.

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I can only assume that you're simply kidding, because that's about as ridiculous as anything I've heard lately (No Cruize SS or SRT4 due to CAFE??? Yet 5560 horse CTSs, 470 horse ATSs, 650 horse Shelbys, a 580 horse Camaros, and 470 horse 2 ton Challengers Chargers , and 300s have no problems? )

You don't currently see a Cruise SS for the same reason you don't currently see a Cruze hatchback. GM simply decided not to sell one at this time.

FWIW, there is a turbo version of the Dart in the works. Whether it's called SRT or not is (again) the decision made by the manufacturer, not CAFE.
And how much do those cars cost? Not one you listed is undet 40k and most are over 50k. You can call it dumb all you want, but CAFE in the end will limit our choices for affordable high performance cars.
Even that new Toyota/Subi probably wont see an sti version.
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