Democrat.
5 Chevies and 1 Ford.
Even my lawnmower is a domestic.

 

But we do not know how well distrubted the poll was. Also, skewed sampling produces skewed data. So, respectfully, I must disagree. Dare I say it, (and I mean this in a non-flamy way), that it's also possible the samples or resulting data were deliberately skewed so as to subtly suggest that some Democrats are somehow not as patriotic as Republicans. As I say, no flames meant, just acknowledging that propaganda comes in all sizes, shapes and forms . What about the "BMW drivers get more sex than Mercedes and Audi drivers" polls? Again.... these kinds of 'skewed' polls are sometimes taken a for a reason... to proliferate an image and get more people to buy into that image.

 

I 100% agree that how well distributed the sampling is could play a part...

I originally had that in my last reply, but I removed it because I started thinking... A Republican is a Reblican whether he or she is in Texas or New York... same thing for Democrats.

I figured the biggest effect that it could have if this poll were taken in a heavily Democtratic area, or a heavily Republican area is that you have more of one group, and less of the other... but the percentages would still be generally the same as far as what the Dems were driving and what the Repubicans were driving...

 

Not everyone that is Hardcore one party or the other. I know republicans that smoke pot and support a womens right to a safe abortion.

 

One more thing Darth..

At the end of the day, whether you buy domestic or import, I don't think it's a very good measure of how patriotic someone is as some might suggest . For one thing, we're are seeing *more and more* outsourcing (which I dislike) of domestic build operations without any real oposition from this Admin. It could be argued that that's not patriotic either, taking jobs from Americans and moving them overseas. This line between what is domestic and what is imported is getting thinner, so the general rule you mention above while it still holds true for now is going to be less applicable as China, Mexico, Korea and India continue taking more and more domestic manufacturing jobs from the US.

 

Absolutely... totally agree.

There are always going to be exceptions... often sizable groups... but I keep going back to the 150,000 sample size.

Unless the distribution, like Z28Marcus mentioned, happens to extremely skew the outcome of the numbers, I gotta think that the sample size is enough to give at least a realistic "ballpark" figure in the results.

 

Well, I'm trying to take a relatively neutral stance in this, because I do find it more of a "hypocritical" thing on the Democratic side, than a "Patriotic" thing on the Republican side...

But, your second paragraph backs up my thought even more... the way Republicans are painted (supporting outsourcing of jobs, etc) then they should be the ones buying the imports, and even if they did... it at least would NOT be hypocritical, because they would just be supporting what they are painted as doing anyway...

 

Notice this report just says "generally".. no stats.


I wouldn't look to deep into these stats... besides, your free to buy whatever car.... Its like saying if you shop at Walmart, your unpatriotic beacuaes 95% of the stuff there is made overseas..

heh, i was at Target the other day, and bought some cotton towels to clean my car with.. At checkout, I was reading the label.. and they were made in Afganistan! Can't believe its still cheaper to ship towels overseas to here, rather than make them in the US itself.

 

While it does say "generally", it later provides percentage statistics.

Also, to Z28Marcus, I glossed over this reading it the first time, but right here it says it is a realistic representation of both Republicans and Democrats in terms of volume... so I have to think this is acceptibale as far as distribution of the numbers polled:

"-The split between Republicans and Democrats is virtually the same as the popular vote outcome of the November 2004 presidential election, 29.7 percent vs. 28.7 percent. "

 

Heh. Point taken, you did say hypocritical .

Doesn't mean the Republican support for outsourcing is good for America though.

Take a look at Walmart (big Rep. supporters and very anti-union). 90% of the stuff on sale there is now made in China or Korea or India. and it's usually crap quality made of flimsy plastic and designed not to last but be tossed away. A relative of mine who is now in her 70s now was telling me the other day how one time, it all used to be made in the good old USA. It's very sad to see this because it means, jobs have been lost in this country and it part of what made this country great has been lost too. I don't want to see the Walmartization of America's Auto industry. Then there will be nothing left to be proud of when the new 2016 6th gen Camaro comes out and 80% of it comes from China or South Korea.

Ok I'm done here.... cuz we're never gonna agree on some things

 

Ya, I wasn't really trying to bring the "right or wrong" of outsourcing jobs, or anything like that into it as much as thinking that it is pretty hypocrtical for the "working man's party" to be the majority buyer of imported vehicles...

 

There is no political basis for cars. My uncle is a democrat, and he owns a 2002 SS and a Pontiac 3800 Trans-port. My mom is a republican and she owns a 2002 Honda CR-V, my sister is an independent and owns a 2002 Civic. I am a democrat and I own a 1995 LT1 Formula.

Also the Ford Focus is made in mexico, but the Honda Civic is made in the United States.

Why the hell would I support Ford when they out source our jobs? I am not going to blindly follow a company because they happen to claim to be American.

Isen't it hypocritical of George Bush to claim he is for clean air? But then pass legislation to allow more smog?

It's politics, and if you want to talk about it. There are forums for it besides a car forum.

Especially when you posted in the wrong forum, this is for 5th generation F-bodys.

-Z28WannaB

 

The term imported is essentially a play on words in this instance because it does not actually represent where the money goes, or where the cars were in fact built.

Its a inaccurate generalized term you are using to come to a erroneous conclusion which has no factual or statistical basis.

- Z28 WannaB

 

Um....... talk about contradicting yourself!


I posted it here, because:

1) It relates to cars.

2) There is another thread somewhat related to this in this forum.

3) Politics are not "all I want to talk about", in fact I almost never do talk about it here. But it's nice that someone who never posts here, and has been here less than a year seems to think they have a better grasp on what is appropriate for discussion here or not. Look, this thread has been very civil, keep it that way.

 

Also if you really want to draw some conclusion where none should actually be made.

You could say since democrats are the working man, they have less money than republicans which are supported by large business such as the oil industry, tobacco, Rx, ect ect.

Seeing as how they have less money they choose to drive the best car for their money which may or may not always be American.

That is assuming you want to draw a conclusion. Or maybe they don't want to support the middle east, so they get cars that get better gas mileage from japan. Perhaps they would rather support the Japanese than Dictatorships?

- Z28WannaB