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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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Re: Republicans buy domestic, Democrats buy imports.

The vehicle breakdown is kinda weird though

Among volume cars, the one having the largest proportion of Republican buyers is Lincoln (39.3 percent), closely followed by Buick (39.0 percent), Mercury (38.4 percent), Cadillac (37.7 percent), and Chrysler (36.8 percent). More Democrats (42.1 percent) favor Subaru than any other make, followed by VW (39.5 percent), Honda (37.3 percent) and, surprise, Buick (36.9 percent).

how does that exactly work since the numbers don't add up to 100%? I guess more than two cars? Does that mean while the republicans do own a domestic, they also own a Lexus,Acura, BMW, or Mercedes too?

And it looks like the Repubs generally buy the more expesnive brands too.. vs the Dem's cheaper Subaru's, VW's, and Honda's... If you look at it that way, who's closer to the "working man" then?










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While it does say "generally", it later provides percentage statistics.

Also, to Z28Marcus, I glossed over this reading it the first time, but right here it says it is a realistic representation of both Republicans and Democrats in terms of volume... so I have to think this is acceptibale as far as distribution of the numbers polled:

"-The split between Republicans and Democrats is virtually the same as the popular vote outcome of the November 2004 presidential election, 29.7 percent vs. 28.7 percent. "
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Z28WannaB
The term imported is essentially a play on words in this instance because it does not actually represent where the money goes, or where the cars were in fact built.
There is no play on words. As a general rule, Hondas, Toyotas, etc are imported. If you read the thread, I already said not all were this way, but the majority are. The inverse is true for domestics.

Its a inaccurate generalized term you are using to come to a erroneous conclusion which has no factual or statistical basis.
It's quite factual indeed. You are incorrect.
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Z28WannaB
Also if you really want to draw some conclusion where none should actually be made.

You could say since democrats are the working man, they have less money than republicans which are supported by large business such as the oil industry, tobacco, Rx, ect ect.

Seeing as how they have less money they choose to drive the best car for their money which may or may not always be American.

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Again, typical hypocritical statements.

If the Democrats are "for the working man"... you certainly would hope they would take pride in the products he and his brothers build!!
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Ken S
The vehicle breakdown is kinda weird though

Among volume cars, the one having the largest proportion of Republican buyers is Lincoln (39.3 percent), closely followed by Buick (39.0 percent), Mercury (38.4 percent), Cadillac (37.7 percent), and Chrysler (36.8 percent). More Democrats (42.1 percent) favor Subaru than any other make, followed by VW (39.5 percent), Honda (37.3 percent) and, surprise, Buick (36.9 percent).

how does that exactly work since the numbers don't add up to 100%? I guess more than two cars? Does that mean while the republicans do own a domestic, they also own a Lexus,Acura, BMW, or Mercedes too?
I believe the stats work out like this:

Take Lincoln for example (39.3% Republican buyers) The remaining 60.7% would be split between Democrats and Independants... with neither having a higher percentage than 39.3%...

And it looks like the Repubs generally buy the more expesnive brands too.. vs the Dem's cheaper Subaru's, VW's, and Honda's... If you look at it that way, who's closer to the "working man" then
The price of the vehicles shold not be relevant at all... because there are domestic and import offering on each side for each price range

For the "working men" that are buying Subaru's, Honda'a, and VW's... they could, and in theory SHOULD be buying Chevy's, Ford's, Dodge's, Saturn's, and Pontiac's...

Conversly... the Republicans could be buying BMW's, Mercedes, Acuras, Lexus', etc... but these numbers do not show that...

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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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Re: Republicans buy domestic, Democrats buy imports.

Ugh, that gives me a headache trying to figure out exactly what the repubs and what the demo's are buying.. since the report, is more on for each brand, what is the split..... rather than for each party, what are they buying.


cause aren't there alot more Subaru's, VW's, and Honda's on the road?






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I believe the stats work out like this:

Take Lincoln for example (39.3% Republican buyers) The remaining 60.7% would be split between Democrats and Independants... with neither having a higher percentage than 39.3%...
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken S
Ugh, that gives me a headache trying to figure out exactly what the repubs and what the demo's are buying.. since the report, is more on for each brand, what is the split..... rather than for each party, what are they buying.


cause aren't there alot more Subaru's, VW's, and Honda's on the road?

It's saying the percentage of the makes listed as a group, not really saying that there are more Subaru's than Lincolns, for example...

It's saying that of the Lincoln owners polled, the majority were Reublicans... of the Subaru owners polled, the majority were Democrats... etc...etc...

Going back to the Lincoln example:

39.3 % of owners were Repiblicans...

Of the remaining 60.7%, it could be split like this: 30.1% Democrat owners, 30.6% Independant owners (I made the 30.1% and 30.6% numbers up, because they are not listed, but both Dem and Ind percentages would have to be lower than the 39.3% and total 60.7% altogether)... that would equal the total distribution of party affiliation for Lincoln owners polled....

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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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Re: Republicans buy domestic, Democrats buy imports.

I'd be interested to see "nonvolume" cars then.. Like Lexus, BMW, Mercedes, Jag, etc.

and nobody buys a Chevy and Ford?
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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I'd be interested to see "nonvolume" cars then.. Like Lexus, BMW, Mercedes, Jag, etc.

and nobody buys a Chevy and Ford?

Ya, I am assuming that those brands, in particular Ford, and Chevy, were left out because they were owned by a majority of Independants rather than Republicans or Democrats.... so they weren't as relative to the story...

In fact, I think this clip supports that premise:

"-The research firm reports the proportion of car buyers classifying themselves "independent" has nearly doubled since first asked in the late 1980s, from about 22 percent up to nearly 42 percent. "
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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Re: Republicans buy domestic, Democrats buy imports.

Yea, thats probably a right assumption.. although from what they give us.. thats an assumption still.. who knows, they could have left the numbers out on purpose..


Anyways, its always good to question the a report thats making generalizations and claims based off surveys and statistics.. cause there's many ways to tell the story..

I put this in the "yea okay, whatever" folder...





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Ya, I am assuming that those brands, in particular Ford, and Chevy, were left out because they were owned by a majority of Independants rather than Republicans or Democrats.... so they weren't as relative to the story...

In fact, I think this clip supports that premise:

"-The research firm reports the proportion of car buyers classifying themselves "independent" has nearly doubled since first asked in the late 1980s, from about 22 percent up to nearly 42 percent. "
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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I dont find it surprising at all. Generally liberals have more of a save the world philosophy. (hippies are very left, for example). Generally imports are viewed as more fuel efficient cars than domestics, whether they are or not. remember image is everything. So thats why they would be more inclined to buy imports. liberals also seem to have more problems with the way our country is going than conservatives do so maybe they want to do what they can to worsen the economy a much as possible and blame the republicans.
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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Re: Republicans buy domestic, Democrats buy imports.

or perhaps thats what they are trying to spin.

To me it seems lke the Repubs are the rich ones buying all the nicer cars.
While the demo's buying the more common brands.

and perhaps, independents, are the ones really buying ford and chevy, pontiac, etc.


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I dont find it surprising at all. Generally liberals have more of a save the world philosophy. (hippies are very left, for example). Generally imports are viewed as more fuel efficient cars than domestics, whether they are or not. remember image is everything. So thats why they would be more inclined to buy imports. liberals also seem to have more problems with the way our country is going than conservatives do so maybe they want to do what they can to worsen the economy a much as possible and blame the republicans.
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken S
or perhaps thats what they are trying to spin.

To me it seems lke the Repubs are the rich ones buying all the nicer cars.
While the demo's buying the more common brands.

and perhaps, independents, are the ones really buying ford and chevy, pontiac, etc.

I don't see how the price of the car is relevant at all...

Again, the Republican buying the expensive Lincolns and Cadillacs could be buying BMWs, or Mercedes, or Acuras or Lexus' instead... but they aren't...

On the other hand... the Democrats who are buying Hondas and Subaru's could be buying Chevy's and Saturns... but they aren't.

Price doesn't matter at all in this equation.
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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Re: Republicans buy domestic, Democrats buy imports.

Well, thats my spin on things!

But see, they didn't tell us the whole picture.. Are independents the ones also buying the most BMW's, Mercedes, Acura's, and Lexus's? Or did they simply not include them because they are not "Among volume cars"

What happens if its like 50% independs buying Chevy and Ford, 45% Dem's buying, and 5% Repubs buying them? But they left it out since the independents are the majority of the buyers?

who knows.




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I don't see how the price of the car is relevant at all...

Again, the Republican buying the expensive Lincolns and Cadillacs could be buying BMWs, or Mercedes, or Acuras or Lexus' instead... but they aren't...

On the other hand... the Democrats who are buying Hondas and Subaru's could be buying Chevy's and Saturns... but they aren't.

Price doesn't matter at all in this equation.
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken S
Well, thats my spin on things!

But see, they didn't tell us the whole picture.. Are independents the ones also buying the most BMW's, Mercedes, Acura's, and Lexus's? Or did they simply not include them because they are not "Among volume cars"

What happens if its like 50% independs buying Chevy and Ford, 45% Dem's buying, and 5% Repubs buying them? But they left it out since the independents are the majority of the buyers?

who knows.

Vaild points... hard to determine without the full statistics.

But, I can see what you are getting at, I suppose it is possible that overall, more Democrats buy domestic based on a higher "second place" for somebrands... but those second places would have to be pretty heavily weighted toward the Dems...

But, I do agree with you that you can look at it that way.

Regardless, though... ANY "working man" Democrat should be buying domestic... obviously it would never happen, but to do otherwise falls under the "hypocrit" label...
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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Re: Republicans buy domestic, Democrats buy imports.

Originally Posted by Darth Xed
I find this pretty interesting. By the way the politcal landscape is painted, you'd assume it to be the exact opposite...

Anyway, found it interesting considering the other thread...
LMAO!!!!

We have on one hand Republicans, who are generally in favor of low taxation and free trade and market competition, who in this forum are regularly harassed as being unpatriotic for not wanting to protect all the jobs that are allegedly being shipped overseas. Yet they are the ones typically buying American cars.

Then you have the close-the-borders-to-foreign competition types who are the actual ones buying the very products they are claiming are driving our jobs overseas.

I LOVE IT, this just made my day. Thanks Darth. In light of recent discussions here including my taxes=evil thread, this post is so ironic I cannot stop laughing.

And of course the first reply here is "my wife is a Dem and drives a Taurus" Everybody just loves to be the first person to bust up a generalization. Of course there are exceptions, that's why its called a generalization....SHEESH. Yet, obviously there is something to this or the pattern wouldn't have materialized at all.

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