Ready to get REALLY pissed off?
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From: Wichita, KS
Re: Ready to get REALLY pissed off?
Originally posted by PacerX
It looks like Bengal, Sky and Solstice are all a real "go", they now have GM program numbers and launch dates.
It looks like Bengal, Sky and Solstice are all a real "go", they now have GM program numbers and launch dates.
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From: South Bend, Indiana
Originally posted by JEDCamino
Just imagine a PT Cruiser with the back side windows replaced with sheet metal. Then imagine it being a little larger, with a front end reminiscant of a '53 Chevy Truck. I
Just imagine a PT Cruiser with the back side windows replaced with sheet metal. Then imagine it being a little larger, with a front end reminiscant of a '53 Chevy Truck. I
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From: MI
Originally posted by Meccadeth
Oh, so you mean if I took a crap in a toilet, imagined wheels under it and gave it windows, thats what it would look like?
Oh, so you mean if I took a crap in a toilet, imagined wheels under it and gave it windows, thats what it would look like?
It's almost like GM is intentionally trying to produce ugly cars.
Oh, BTW, basing a Camaro off of that little solstice platform would make me more angry than anything else.
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From: Inland Empire, CA
Originally posted by Pentatonic
Essentially, yes.
It's almost like GM is intentionally trying to produce ugly cars.
Oh, BTW, basing a Camaro off of that little solstice platform would make me more angry than anything else.
Essentially, yes.
It's almost like GM is intentionally trying to produce ugly cars.
Oh, BTW, basing a Camaro off of that little solstice platform would make me more angry than anything else.
Compared to, say, a 4th gen.
How much shorter is it? How much narrower?
Just curious, since it's so small.
I for one would like to see them bring the Camaro back on the B-Body.
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From: Hebron, KY
Originally posted by MunchE
How big is the Solstice, exactly?
Compared to, say, a 4th gen.
How much shorter is it? How much narrower?
Just curious, since it's so small.
I for one would like to see them bring the Camaro back on the B-Body.
How big is the Solstice, exactly?
Compared to, say, a 4th gen.
How much shorter is it? How much narrower?
Just curious, since it's so small.
I for one would like to see them bring the Camaro back on the B-Body.
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From: Houston
Originally posted by jrp4uc
guionM already broke down the dimensions and just how feasible it is to base a Camaro off of the Solstice platform. There are a lot of misconceptions concerning the Solstice, and having seen it in person I can assure you it is no little rollerskate of a car.
guionM already broke down the dimensions and just how feasible it is to base a Camaro off of the Solstice platform. There are a lot of misconceptions concerning the Solstice, and having seen it in person I can assure you it is no little rollerskate of a car.
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From: The Golden State
Originally posted by Pentatonic
Essentially, yes.
It's almost like GM is intentionally trying to produce ugly cars.
Oh, BTW, basing a Camaro off of that little solstice platform would make me more angry than anything else.
Essentially, yes.
It's almost like GM is intentionally trying to produce ugly cars.
Oh, BTW, basing a Camaro off of that little solstice platform would make me more angry than anything else.
Time to shoot down misconceptions of a few people who hasn't actually seen the Solstice with their own eyes, and are following the rest of the herd in thinking it's no bigger than a Miata.
First of all, it is true the Solstice is short. In length, it's about 2" shorter, but that's the only area it matches Miata.
Width:
Solstice- 71"
Camaro- 74.1"
Mustang- 73.1
Miata- 66."
Track (f/r):
Solstice- 60.3/60.5
Camaro- 60.7/60.6
Mustang- 60.2/60.6
Miata- 55.7/56.7
Total overhang:
Solstice- 58"
Camaro- 92"
Mustang- 82
Miata- 67"
A gen 4 Camaro with the same overhang (front & rear combined) as a Solstice would be 6" longer than Solstice, while a Solstice with the massive overhangs of a 4th gen would be only 6" shorter than Camaro.
In short, with not much more than more than a slight extention of wheelbase and a bit more front and rear overhang (which the production Solstice will no doubt have), the Solstice could easily be a Camaro. Finally, GM will be running only 2 sets of rear drive components world-wide, Corvette & Sigma. Solstice will run with one of those.
What it's boiling down to is if you want a lowslung sports Camaro, the Solstice architecture is it. If you want an upright design like the 1st gen or the current Mustang, the new GTO/mid-size sedan VE structure is the choice.
If you think GM is going to make a special structure just for Camaro alone, just keep on waiting.
Last edited by guionM; Jan 21, 2003 at 02:38 PM.