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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by km9v
I think the biggest challenge they will have is making a car to US tastes/standards. The Chinese are good for mfg a product that a US retailer tells them to market. But, if they recruit US marketing/engineering folks, they could take a big chunk of market share.
Respectfully disagree about the tastes... they can copy what we currently like in a matter of weeks - they are the best on earth at copying. Even quality and fit can be done right if they chose to.
The biggest challenge they will have is making one that will pass our safety tests and crash worthiness. They don't understand the physics behind crashes and controlled consumption of energy through material deformation. They do well to simply copy the sheetmetal.

They see opportunity to cut cost and save material by using thinner steels and less of it - so they do it, not knowing they are sacrificing structural integrity in the process.

They are culturally driven by 2 factors that we are 180 apart from with respect to them...
1) Materials are hard to come by so they reuse, recycle, and waste virtually nothing (personal and professionally). They are VERY concerned about waste there, so they look actively to maximise the use of everything. (I saw them assign people to walk through our plant build project and pick up nuts, bolts, washers, fittins, tie wraps - anything of value - and clean them and put them in the maintenance shop bins for use - NO CHIT!) Here, we throw away enough stuff for them to live off of comfortably. We are wasteful whether we admit it or not.

2) Over there, life is nearly worthless, so a crash that kills is no more than "a shame". They wrote a check to the widow of a steel worker that died on our last job... she got about $4300 USD and an apology... and there was another worker on the job the next morning - never slowed down and nothing changed. About 7000 Chinese die in minimg accidents every year. Untold scores of them are run over as pedestrians every day. More are killed in bicycle and moped accidents as well, yet nothing ever changes. Life is cheap there - unlike here - so they don't understand the concepts of "safety" as we do. Here, we have a lawsuit and drive companies out of business if there is an accident that hurts or kills a single person, much less several folks having a class-action suit.

Those differences make the playground a little different for the Chinese, and they simply don't understand our playground rules just like many here don't understand their rules (until you go there for a while and see it 1st hand). Funny how cultures can be driven by resources, huh?
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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Or better yet, Operation China Freedom. Take out their communist state and implant the good and holy Democracy!
How about "Operation Take Off and Nuke the Entire Site from Orbit: It's the Only Way to be Sure"...
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by HAZ-Matt
How about "Operation Take Off and Nuke the Entire Site from Orbit: It's the Only Way to be Sure"...
Yeah, we can work on that in our 'space technology' programs. Damn Chinese F-Grrrrr!!!
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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Also, the government allows this black market to exist right in front of them.
They do more than just allow it, they're often in on it. Not to along ago I saw a article about a Chinese state built Disney World knock off.
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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A country that eats dogs and cats...and is well known for harvesting organs from prisoners and god knows who else. They wanna sell me a car? shove it up your ugly ***!
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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wow!

and I think Proud said it the best..also check out some of the comments made on that site below..some good stuff from some people

But come on this is just flat out copy cat styling and wonder what the guys from China that were at the NAIAS heard??

What no its a new car..no its a Mercedes..no its a new car..no look out the window there is my car..my car is what your car is copied from..and they turn around and ignore the guy..
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