Agreed, but if they come in with a 3500 lbs f-bod, then no big deal if the base vette and top camaro share the same engine. Unless of course they produce the pipe dream f-bod @ 3200 to 3300 lbs.

Then again if they go the 3rd and 4th gen route and use a single exhaust system in and around 2.5 inches, then I think the LS2 might loose a pinch in power (seems to me you need around a single 3" pipe to support 400+ hp)

 

I'll give this a second vote for the lounge. The amount of misinformation is just boggling. Claiming you "know" insiders is not the same as *the* insider that posts here regularly. Every swinging you-know-what here has a friend that works for GM and I would say 99.9% of those know nothing about what's going on with the 5th gen.

When the person most closely related to the 5th gen cannot do anything but drop hints, there's no way you're getting the "scoop" over a few beers.

FutureZMan, you really need to take a long read at some of the posts in this forum, starting with the stickies. These are as close as you're going to get to the facts regarding any 5th gen that may or may not be coming. Anyone who says anything different is merely speculating (or worse, BS'ing), no matter how many GM insiders you drink beers with.

 

The info from the man from Mars is all you need to know.

 

A bit off the beaten path, but by your sig, you seem to be the man to ask. I had a chance to pick up a Mark III with blown airbags (suspension, the previous owner was trying to lower it and cut the bags ), did I miss out on a good deal with the engine? Seems to me the MVIII's and the cobra shared the same basic long block (sans forged crank, cams and intake if I'm guessing right?) I coulda nabbed this thing for pennies!

 

I would prefer it just be deleted at this point, it was meant as a real scenerio, but went flame as hell real quick. I'm not claiming anything, its been said 1,000 times in this thread, i dont use Internet sources for info. If i havnt Seen it personally, or get it from someone i trust be it a media outlet or someone close to the subject then i quickly discard it.

I would agree on the 99.99% of the GM employee's knowing nothing on the 5th gen, thus the reason i never claimed i knew squat about it. I was refering to the HP gap (even if only on paper in the past) to the Vette - Maro.

Scoop? its almost been intirly comparisons to older vehicles. Also some rare occasions where the Z had matched the Vette, Very little 5th gen insite there. Plain to see.

Ive been reading these post's for months, its the reason i registered. If you notice all my posts are in the 5th gen section. Save a few.

I love how "GM insiders over a few beer's keeps getting tossed in my face", it was in regaurds to anyone can claim to be an insider, even a 12 year old kid who wants attention, i only beleive what i can see.... Its really not that hard to let sink in.

In the end, my only point was. In the past (for the most part) the Vette's HP wasnt touched by the Camaro (on paper) with SAE news ratings, GM will actually need to gimp the camaro for it to stand. This was all the post was supposed to relay, nothing more. Nothing less. Argue away im through.

Also, this went into a quick flame about the 05' stang too, way off base. If you see something run 14's everytime you see something run, its hard to let in that its a low 13 car. Unless i live in a mass community of ****ty drivers (which could be the case)

 

Well then, to try and get this thread back on target (maybe), I will agree with this point. Although there are a few examples in the past of a Chevy rating higher than the Vette, it is more than likely in my opinion that the Camaro will be just a few shy of the Vette. Until the base Corvette gets a horsepower boost, be it the hypothetical 6.2 v8 or whatever, I can't really see the top dog Camaro being able to compete well against the GT500.

 

I wonder how the Camaro will perform against the Future GTO???

 

Flame Flame Flame away

 

if we get a early 08' release i think the camaro will be right there with the GT500 be it in Z28 or SS form.

I think the SS as always will be a little behind the Z28 in reference to production. Z28 07'-08' SS Late 08' - 09'.

 

Actually the Martian said that Z/28 was about 18 months behind the initial launch which would include the SS. I believe there was also hinting that the Z/28 would go back to its racing roots, ala Corvette Z06.

 

who is this martian...

 

Honestly, i would expect the new camaro to outperform the GTO.

But thats just wishful thinking :blah:

 

I hope one of those smileys means you're joking. If you don't know who the martian we're talking about is, you need to do a lot more reading yet.

 

 

The Teskid block (93-98 cars) is stronger than the 99-01 Cobra blocks and is sought after from racers wanting to upgrade. The heads are the same between the Mark VIII and the 96-98 Cobra. The main difference between the 2 engines was that the Mark VIII crank was cast and the Cobra had a forged crank. Other than that, one of the cams is slightly different and the intake manifold is different. There is quite a bit of money to be made parting out these cars. Also, the airbags rebuilt are about $150 each, or a coil over conversion is about $400. The proper way to lower these cars is to sensor lower them.