These are some of the Camaro/Mustang V8 POSSIBLE combinations:

CAMARO:

LS4...5.3L approx. 300hp.

LS(x)...6.0L 320-350 hp.

LS2...6.0L up to 400+ hp.

LS7...6.4L up to 500 hp.

MUSTANG:

3V 4.6L...290-320 hp.

4V 4.6L, Supercharged...350-400hp.

3V 5.4L...approx. 350 hp.

4V 5.4L...approx. 400hp

4V 5.4L, Supercharged, Supercooled...500-550hp.

*BONUS ENGINE*
V10.....5.8-7.0L 500-600hp.

Feel free to add anything I've left out.

 

I don't know if the current 5.0 3V stroker would be an option for the Mustang (I think it has been ruled out) but I will add it anyway.

 

Scott is right - There exists a 5.0L-3V engine that is a stroked 4.6. This is a crate engine that is a hybrid of Aussie parts and domestic 4.6 castings. Testing was underway last spring. The rumor mill had (and still could have) this engine as the basis for a return of the "5.0" emblems on the Mustang, OR as a limited Ed "BOSS 302". Honestly, I've heard nothing about it in the last 3-4 months though.

You've touched sufficiently on the 5.4 engines... no need in adding confusion with varied derivatives - good job there.

BTW, why are we doing this exercise?

PS - This is a little old, but maybe new news here...
There's supposedly been a leak from a press-pack publisher that the '05 Mustang V6 will in fact be a 4.0L instead of the old 3.8 - data straight from Ford. The 4.0 is basically the Ranger/Explorer engine tuned for HP instead of torque. The figures are available if anybody's interested. The plan is to run the 4.0 until the 3.5 debuts in the '06 model (which is still on track tto BTW.)

 

Just thought it'd be interesting.

Also, after a big flurry of leaks afew months to a year ago, it now seems to me, that the 5.0....as a production engine.....seems dead.

 

Also, for awhile, I was convinced that GM would cap Camaro's power to 400 or less. I had a hard time believing some of the posts by guion and PacerX regarding power levels above that figure.

Suffice to say.....I've reconsidered.

 

Once we get confirmation that the new Camaro is in production, I will worry about HP levels. I might just buy a new one if it hits in '07.

 

From what I understand and have read it's looking like late 2006 is the goal for getting them into dealer's lots.

 

what are the specs on the 4.0?

 

For the '04 Ranger...
Cylinders: 6
Size: 4 liters
Type: V6
Horsepower: 207 hp
Max Horsepower: 5250 rpm
Torque: 238 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 3000 rpm


As for the version going into the Mustang... ? ?

Again, I was understanding the 3.8 was staying, but I guess not.

I will say this, I have a good deal of experience with the 4.0 in Explorers and Rangers... they are torquey little devils and very smooth and reliable. Worst problem is cracked heads on the early models... it happens late in life - like 200K miles - but you never know they are cracked until you take them off. Casting design problem, that is supposed fixed as of late.

The other thing is that late 4.0 engines are all SOHC, as opposed to the early pushrod engines. Same basic block and guts though with updates for top end changes.

I guess the 4.0 is as proven as the 3.8 overall, but why change it for the sake of changing it? There must be SOME underlying reason not yet known, like economic reasons, line utility, availability... something, because the incremental performance sure ain't worth it IMO.

 

I mentioned this almost 2 months ago here and was basically called a lunatic.

 

This sounds like wishful thinking but still possible.

Here's my take
CAMARO:

LS4...5.3L approx. 300hp. Base Camaro with a V8? I WISH. The Base Camaro will have a V6 option for young enthusiasts. These numbers sound like a "trimmed" Z28.

LS(x)...6.0L 320-350 hp. This sounds like the perfect candidate for a Z28 to aim at both the GT and Mach1 Mustangs.

LS2...6.0L up to 400+ hp. SS numbers here if Chevy decides to draw a performance line between the Z28 and SS rather than just "appearance".

LS7...6.4L up to 500 hp. The Camaro will not be allowed to directly compete with the Corvette in the HP wars. Sounds like a limited production vehicle like the ZL1, but the 2002 ZL1 had 600 horsies; bump that HP number up.

MUSTANG:

3V 4.6L...290-320 hp. Base Mustang with a V8? Mustang enthusiasts WISH. 290 sounds about right for a deluxe V6 Coupe. 320 sounds about right for deluxe GT.

4V 4.6L, Supercharged...350-400hp. This doesn't make sense at all. Look at the next 2 engine types.

3V 5.4L...approx. 350 hp. Mach1 numbers me thinks.

4V 5.4L...approx. 400hp Throw a Charger on this engine and it's just about Cobra numbers.

4V 5.4L, Supercharged, Supercooled...500-550hp.

*BONUS ENGINE*
V10.....5.8-7.0L 500-600hp.

The last two engines, 500-550 Charged and Cooled or the 500-600 V10 scream BOSS Mustang engine types. Limited Production type Mustangs that most likely won't happen until AFTER EVERY Ford GT has been sold.

Sound about right?

 

I think camaro will have engine choices 1 and 3.

The Z/28 will get #1, 5.3 300hp
The SS will get #3, 6.0 400hp


On the mustang side. looks to me like engines 1,3,5, and 6 will be offered as follows.

The GT will get #1, 4.6 3V 300hp (we already know this)
The Mach1 (or Boss) will get #3 5.4 3V 350hp(more like 380)
The Cobra will get #5, SC 5.4 500+hp
The Shelby 351 will get an NA 5.8L V10 500+hp
The Shelby 351R will get a SC 5.8L V10 600+hp (Wait a minute.... could this be the $60K mustang to take out the blue eggsandham vette?)

 

The "Blue Devil" is a competitor for the Ford GT. Both limited production cars. Ford won't aim a Mustang at the $100k Vette.

I don't know much about Shelby getting in with Ford again, but I'm sure the Shelbys will be limited prduction AFTER EVERY Ford GT has been sold.

 

Haha.............you wish (on al of those choices). Try again.

 

Sure as hell they would aim a Shelby at whatever the top dog vette is out there. (Even though the senile old goat couldn't design his way out of a paper bag, his name's worth money and status)

The Cobra and Lightning are coming out with 500+ hp regardless of whether the GT is still being produced. The Lightning is all but confirmed to have a variation of Ford GT motor. There's still debate on how the Cobra will make 500hp

The hyper-performance Shelby's may have to wait for the GT to end, but not SVT's stuff.


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