I agreee!!!! but my argument not with you...

ohh and to the guy who said a neon would be a discrace to the AAR name.... take a peek...

http://www.allamericanracers.com/hist.html

http://www.allamericanracers.com/stats/aarstat.html

http://www.allamericanracers.com/eagle_mklll.html

THAT IS AAR..and if this means anything it looks like TOYOTA HAS MORE RIGHT TO USING AAR than any new cuda!

AAR is a company..and they sponsored a cuda..thats where you get the AAR Cuda from! and look what they sponsored before and after..MOSTLY TOYOTA!!! So how can you say it would discrace the AAR name????????

If the SRT-4 was sponsored by AAR it has all the right in the world to wear that badge!!

just not an AAR cuda!

I rest my case..

 

How bout bringing back Plymouth as Chrysler's Pontiac fighter...make them more exciting than Dodges , but Unique enough not to compete with Chrysler. For instance the PT Cruiser could easily be a Plymouth..I could also see a Razor based Solstice fighting Pronto Spyder, Or how about an LX sedan like the concept they showed a few years back...looked like Al Capone would drive around in. This is all on top of a Cuda, or Road Runner.
I think there is always a market for another brands as long it is something people want. Hell GM dominates the market because it has so many brands....do you think if they said Okay we are only gonna sell Chevy's and Cadillac's they would be the #1 automaker?
Then return Dodge to the masses where it belongs...and I am not even getting started about the horse collar grille.

 

I STRONGLY disagree with you here. Can you imagine Z/28 badges on a cavalier... cause that is ESSENTIALLY what this is (besides the fact one is a sponsor and one isnt)

The AAR and Z/28 were both streeted versions of cars used in the trans am nationals or something like that. If dodge wants to make that dumb of a move, go ahead. Ive been a strong supporter of the way dodge has been handling things lately... including the srt4. but putting the AAR badge (excuse me even paint scheme) on a neon is enough to lose all that respect from me, not that they care.

 

I AM NOT REFERRING TO THE NEON!

 

Easy there bud

When people think about a 'Cuda, they think about a larger, RWD, v8 powered beast. If Chrysler brought that formula back with some serious hp numbers (im talking srt-10 numbers here), I think AAR 'Cuda could work. But to me, I think an AWD v6 powered 'Cuda would not live up to the name AT ALL. I know GM is the king of killing great names, but Chrysler would take a bump up to first if this happened. If they brought out a v8 powered RWD larger coupe with a new HEMI capable of 400+hp, then I'd be all for a return of the 'Cuda

btw Z284ever, my roommate is a HUGE Mopar nut so I hear bout those cars all the time. I instantly recognized and pictured every color name you mentioned

 

Actually if it used the Evo's powertrain it would be an AWD turbo I4...but why do you think it would not live up to the name?

It would certainly outperform the '05 Mustang GT..and even the '02 SS/WS6.

And...these are probably going to be the only DCX coupes...other than Crossfire...that we'll see for the foreseeable future.

 

Because it does not have muscle car DNA. It's the DNA that S.S. refers to and makes a car what it is. A Cuda with this drivetrain is no longer a muscle car, it's a sport compact. I keep thinking...put the shoe on the other foot....you'd be just fine with this setup on a Dodge muscle car....think about how'd you feel about an AWD 4 cylinder Z/28, then get back to me.....

 

AAR can be used by any company..heck even Chevy could use the bage if they contact the company and make a deal...

Like I said AAR has been used on more Toyotas than cudas...

an AAR SRT-4 would be cool...

AND NO I AM NOT SAYING NEON CUDA EITHER!!

 

What are you referring to then??? So far srt# has always been the # of cylinders. A 4 cylinder cuda doesnt work no matter if its a neon or not. Call it something else for crying out loud.

 

Ok, AAR is used on other cars... great.

Those other cars DONT have the AAR cuda paint scheme.

Go ahead, use AAR... dont disgrace the AAR cuda though.

 

Ok Wilson, you've got a good argument there, with that DNA thing. I'm just glad you didn't call the EVO a Neon. The DNA aspect has weight with with me...eventhough, this new car that I have described, would outperform your new SS.

I was using that as an example, because these cars are already in the pipeline, are coupes, will be based on the Lancer/Galant platform, and adding the EVO's drivetrain/brakes/features would be very easy.....and cheap.

You know, the Barracuda started out as merely a fast back version of the econo-car Valiant. It didn't even have a 'Cuda option until I think around 1969 at the end of the 2nd gen car.

We all remember the AAR 'Cuda.....which is one of my favorites...but that was a one year wonder. By 1974 the cars were history. They weren't all AAR's or HEMI's...in fact most were 318 cruisers.

Maybe if DNA is a concern...this car should be called Dodge Challenger. Sure, everyone certainly remembers the early '70's Challenger....but from 1978 to I think 1983...the Dodge Challenger was a RWD coupe, based on Mitsubishi's Galant platform.

Now there is a direct DNA link.

 

That's ok. I'm well aware that my car will be outdated performance wise in probably just a couple more years (as-is ). How well would this car fare against the other new performance machines in, say, 2006? If you're going to badge it "AAR 'Cuda", it better fare very well.

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I was using that as an example, because these cars are already in the pipeline, are coupes, will be based on the Lancer/Galant platform, and adding the EVO's drivetrain/brakes/features would be very easy.....and cheap.

No one is disputing all the pieces are there to make one heck of a nice car. But why make it wear the Barracuda badge if it doesn't have that DNA? At least the new GTO has the essential ingredients to link it to its ancestors.

 

I don't know, I thought it'd be pretty cool to bring back some of those old names...as long as they had the performance to deliver the goods.

As far as the GTO's DNA...and I feel the same way about the Firebird....to me, at least a strand or two of that DNA helix was broken when those Ponchos started packing smallblock Chevy's.

 

my point exactly. call it something else.

 

Just wondering....do you guys ever foresee a circumstance when it would be acceptable to take an old name, and successfully apply it to a new car that is not a V8 and RWD?

BTW Caps, I have no problem with an AAR SRT-4 either.