would you have that same opinion if it was a GM vehicle?

 

Yes, but I wouldn't have to bother voicing that opinion because everyone else here would do it for me if it were GM.

PS- my 2000 Silverado who's ABS system would go into overload if I hit the slightest wheel-hop-causing bump during braking and caused my stopping distance thereafter to more than double unless I had the thought to let go of the brakes and hit them again... I'd say that was more disconcerting to me.

Yet... I'm pretty sure this is the first time I've ever even mentioned it on this board.

 

The wheel speed sensor recall is a pretty good one, usually happens at parking lot speeds. I've almost hit a lift because the abs engaged and couldn't stop.

 

Nope you've mentioned that many times.
Yet, somehow that doesn't seem any worse since the driver would have to make a conscience decision to stay on the brakes instead of quickly lifting off and reapplying .

I think even in sue happy America this recall from Lexus would not be considered an issue UNLESS for some reason the passenger had unbelted in mid drive (reach in the back for something) and tried to rebelt and couldn't and then an accident occurred. Although to get that specific set of events would be really rare and likely not to occur.

Chris

 

Many?
I just did a search and it appears I've mentioned it once before, about 8 months ago, and that was in reply to a thread somebody else created that was ABOUT that recall - I just said, 'yeah, I think my truck had that problem'. So I was wrong, apparently I have mentioned it before, but not exactly 'many' either and not really rubbing it in people's noses when I replied to a thread that was about that recall specifically.

Natural instinct when your brakes aren't apply sufficient pressure is to press harder, not let off. Heck... even in those that know what's happening, it's going to take at least a second or two to realize what just happened, let go, and reapply pressure. In many situations that could easily double your stopping distance even if you only took, say, 1.5 seconds to react.

 

Oops, well maybe you're right although I could have sworn you had mentioned it prior to that as I hadn't been surprised with you mentioning about it b/c I had heard about it prior. Yes it was in the thread about the recall, geez don't get your panties in a ruffle, it wasn't a bash nearly an observation . Of course one question is, What does a Chevy truck recall have to do with a Lexus recall?

Uh yeah, duh. I was being sarcastic thus the two smileys .

Chris

 

I suspect toneloc was implying what many here feel - that I'm only saying what I'm saying (about the Lexus recall not being that big of a deal) because I'm the resident import humper (which isn't true, I just have high expectations for GM and don't see some of their current offerings as being as competetive as they should be).
So whether or not tonloc was implying that, I felt that mentioning the silverado recall, which affected me directly and even scared me good a couple of times, was a good way of saying - I think this Lexus recall is less significant of a safety issue than what happened to me in my silverado, yet I've never mentioned that before (and as we found out I guess I mentioned it once in a thread about it)



Oh, sorry. People don't always use smiley-faces to actually denote jesting/joking statements.

 

Every manufacturer has their recalls.. some are serious, some are not. I think some people like to champion Lexus and Toyota recalls because some of their owners have this bullet-proof, Toyota-can-do-no-wrong mentality -- which frustrates the heck out of a domestic enthusiast.

Everybody's heard of the GM, Piston-slap issue, right? How about the Tundra V8 piston-slap issue?
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forum...look-knocking/

I think Toyota's reputation helps them here, along with the fact that they simply don't sell as many Tundra's as GM does Silverado's, Tahoes, and Suburbans. But I think the bigger issue is that some people hold domestic brands to a different standard than they do the import brands -- but the domestics made their bed in this area. By their own admitting, they've had years of substandard products - and they are now paying the price for it. It's something they can overcome, but don't fool yourself - it isn't going to happen over the coarse of a few model years. It very well may take a decade or longer.

 

has it even been proven that piston slap is in fact an issue?

hell my SS sounds like its thrown a rod through the side of the block when its cold, but it still pulls 13.2's stock

 

AFAIK, there has not been one documented case of engine failure directly related to piston slap. That goes for GM's, Toyotas, or whatever.

 

True, and there's never been a documented case of mechanical failure due to loud and obnoxious interior rattles, but they sure do **** the owners who paid good money for car.