Aww shnikes Z284ever.....I was just answerin jgs question. *hick kid voice*"Honest paw" */hick kid voice*

It's just really sad that GM/Chevy is tossing the SS badge around everywhere.

There isn't much room for error with the 5th gen, so they need to get everything right this time.

 

I'm not sure what I think about this. I've always had this image in my mind that the Z28 should be light and nimble, bare-bones, and plain instead of flashy. I've always seen the SS as a powerful brute with plenty of options, that has more emphasis on appearance than the Z28.

Z28 = ZO6
SS = Standard Corvette

At least that's how I have always seen/wanted it.

 

I voted for different engines. I'm still not convinced that the two could/should be sold side by side at all.

 

Are you saying you honestly believe the 1967 Z-28 only put out 290 HP?

Or that the 15 hp and 10 lb-ft of torque difference between the Z-28 & SS in 2001 was all the significant? How much more did that sticker package cost?

 

Which exactly why Chevy should stop throwing the SS badge around like the Chevy Bowtie.

That is the 67, not the 69 guys I figured you people knew the story that the original 67 didn't have the 350. Bad people.

 

And neither did the 69! The 67-69 Z/28 302 cid V8 put out at least 100-150 hp more than Chevy claimed in its day and it certainly had more umph that the 350 "SS".

 

Oh yeah?! Well....my butt puts out more displacement after eating Taco Bell than yours. My A§§ up against your Butt Z28 Right now! Pick your public restroom and I'll meet you there!

I just think the SS should produce more than the Z28, different engines OR different displacement, and that line should be more distinguished.

 

How old are you... 12?

What's wrong can't take it when someone points out holes in your argument?

 

That was meant to be humorous and I got kicked off the page before I could finish my post, it's edited now.

 

Id like to see the Z28 be a more spirited driving car, make the redline 750 rpm higher, take a little stroke out of the motor, but make the cam a little more aggressive. The SS could just be an asphalt pounder that goes straight real quick.

 

You know, the horsepower number that we've been throwing around here for the past few months, for the 5th gen's top end motor, has been in the neighborhood of 400.
That's alot of power in my book.

Why isn't that just about right for both SS and Z/28? Are their any SS owners out there who wouldn't gladly take 400 ponies?

I would take that much power on a Z/28....if it were...as Doug Harden says...a "real Z/28".

Maybe, in 5 years 400 will seem passe',...well, whatever the appropriate number is.....430, 450....or whatever,.... couldn't these two models appeal to different enthusiasts, even with the same motor?

 

I'm sure anyone on this board would gladly take 400 horses Z284ever.

Like I've said before I would rather have a seperate engine to further differentiate between the SS and the Z28, BUT it can be done with same motor, just a differing output.

Chuck! That's what GM did with the 4th Gen Z28 and SS, but the SS was the "touring" car and the Z28 was the 1/4 mile rocket. I believe the SS package pertained to: hood, stripes, upped suspension and badging. GM is really irking me with the SS badge being thrown around like an unsupervised baby with a spoon and a bowl full of outmeal.

 

Although they never will - I'd like to see things go the way of the 60 with an incredible assortment of engine to pick from.

Would be nice to have more than 2 totally seperate engine choices.

For the last 15 years it's been either a V6 or a V8 - granted you could get a hopped up V8 for some of those year, but it's still the same engine.

How about a nice BIG BLOCK 5th Gen!

 

I was thinking more along the lines of a 69 Z28 vs a SS. The Z got the 302 which reved to 7250 (Thats where my dad shifted) but then it also got the 396 which was just a torque monster. Im not expecting using a two totally different motors for cost reasons, so I figure if they can destroke the current engine then give it a larger cam to make up for the power loss and to get the revs higher, it'd accomplish the same idea.

 

Why?

SS is a performance/trim strategy for Chevy to sell volume vehicles.

I'd say the Cobalt SS and Cobalt SS supercharged look pretty good and will be extremely competitive. The SC 3800 Impy/MC SS are merely place keepers until the 5.3 comes out. Also,all of the upcoming SS's will have generous power increases over their lower siblings....and will have more aggressive looks, including some very appealling, (and surprising for Chevrolet), wheel/tire combos.

SS is about upgrading the vehicles that you have----the ones that you intend to sell....not some vaporware notion that EVERY SS ever built.. or that ever should be built ought to be a '70 450 hp LS-6 big block Chevelle.

SS is about high volume and mass appeal.... a narrowly focused, limited interest, over the top package does not fit within this strategy.

I'm not shy about calling a spade; a spade...when it comes to some of Chevy's shortcomings.....but on this, Chevy is right on target.