That's right. Between 30 and 40 something. They have kids, they buy minivans, houses, widescreen TVs, cellphones (for each member of the family), etc., and sport sedans like the 300c.

Slackers? No, that's generation "Y" or "Why?" as in "Why should I?". They're the under 30s ricer crowd into ecstacy, $200 skateboards, rap musicians who make funny hand signals, commercial punk, and rice burners with wings, ad nauseum.

 

born 1964-1980... so 25-40 now
Gen y is 1980 to i think 1990, but i might not be correct on that 90 part...
gen M is 1990 to current i think...

but Gen X are overeducated and underacheiving, they know when they are being sold so its difficult to market to them... where as babyboomer didnt know and would buy easily if they saw something they liked on tv or something...

Gen Y are more overeducated and more underacheivers... again harder to sell to...

but I'm a damn proud gen Y... and Hell I buy GM cars!

 

How did they describe Gen Y.....?

I think it was altruistic, idealistic, and something to the effect that Gen Y'ers had almost unrealisitically high expectations when it came to things like the work place, benefits and pay, but I cant remeber the short for that?

man the world is screwed, apathetic slacker boss with an altruistic idealist with unreal expectations minion.

 

Actually, 60s era muscle cars cost up to twice or more the price of the standard model it was based on. For example, a Pontiac Tempest that cost $2000 to get the top GTO cost over $4000. Much like paying $40,000 for that new Impala SS.

The other thing you're missing here is wages in the 1960s. Minimum wage was a dollar or less & good teachers typically made about $4,000 per year. Today, they are making about 40K, minimum is $5.75 out here, and GTOs run about 32K. Overall, sounds about where it was in the 60s.


No way I'd call GTO a sports car. A grand tourer, maybe. Corvette is a sports car. F-bodies aren't muscle cars either. The Impala SS of the mid 90s was a muscle car. The Grand National of the 80s was a muscle car. Camaro doesn't fit in here somehow.

Somebody understands!

Controling wives?! Pleease!

How many controling wives do you think made their husbands buy the 90s era Impala SS, or the Chrysler 300C, or Dodge Magnum, or especially the Charger.

I KNOW you aren't married. If you were, you'd know that if wives had their way, we'd all be driving SUVs.

Sedans are selling for a number of reasons. Short list: they're practical; insurence is cheaper; more people have parents still living; passengers today hate contorting into the back of a coupe; there isn't enough gen x buyers to sustain the massive baby boomer generation's appetite for coupes; and coupe sales collasped in the late 90s in direct relation to the increas of SUV popularity.

Muscle cars are midsize cars with adult sized rear seats an a lot of power under the hood. Today, sedans dominate the way coupes did in the 60s but that doesn't take away from them being muscle cars. Cars have to sell.

Charger is a 100% certified poster child for a modern muscle car. So was the Impala SS of the 90s. So was the Buick Grand National of the 80s, the Chevelle SS of the early 70s, etc.



Trivia Time:
Betcha didn't know US automakers were consciously creating a new class of muscle cars in the 1970s: Dodge Demon/Plymouth Duster 360; the Ventura GTO; & the Nova SS350 were the opening salvos. Chrysler's Volare Roadrunner & Aspen R/T would have targeted the new for '74 Ventura GTO's performance.

This was a direct response to the insurence companies jacking up rates into the stratosphere and buyers leaving muscle cars in droves. These cars had the acceleration of all but the top muscle cars of the 60s. The fuel crisis (courtesy of OPEC) of '73 & '74 and the later CAFE standards changed all that... quickly!

 

If you say so, however experience has proven otherwise (although, geography may have something to do with it), I'd say gen y folks are more tech savy, but I have yet to meet some one younger than me that I would consider over-educated.

 

it depends on how you were raised, of course, and as you look at each gnerations parent generation, you understand why people are a certain way... look at the babyboomers, their parents grew up in the depression and had the bare necesities, so baby boomers wanted everything cause they didnt have anything as a kid, so now the baby boomers are mostly pack rats... making it easy to sell and market things toward them... look at their kids, they dont want very many things, they want a bag that has all their personalbles, and dont want anything to do with the million things there parents had...

now i know that advertisement on tv or newspaper or billboards are worthless toward me, it adds another company to my list to check quality between before i purchase, but i could care less which beer is "king" or "President" if i'm gonna buy a beer... got me?
but people my age are all Im gonna make it rich, and what not... they are all falling for those marketisms... they dont want to work for their money, like my dad always told me, "if there is a job that you get paid for doing nothing, those jobs are already taken."

 

Hah, you got that right , but seriously when you were refering to "over-educated" did you mean over-educated for the job market? It seems to me that post K12 education has become a rite of passage for alot of people and that the expense just isnt paying off as they enter the work place and the only jobs available are flipping bergers and changing oil?

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and thats where the unrealistic expectations come from I think, as people feel that the added expense of college warrants increased pay despite thier chosen discipline. However try telling that to somebody who has spent 15 or 20 years in a job and some young new guy comes in and says he should be making what that lifer is making.

 

well i donno, i read that out of a magazine regauarding advertisement toward X & Y generations... so i donno, but my take is its hard to find a job, and i can do a lot of things... when my dad was going thro college he worked for NASA, now you'd probably need a PH.D to do what he did...
but just because you have a PH.D doesnt make you the right canidate. I'm sure with a little hands on job experiance I could work a lot of people out of their jobs... but thats my learning curve and thats my work ethic, but because i've been doing manual labor because thats all that was avalible to me, i'd say yea I'm over educated for my job... Every day I'd point out a inefficent point in the way we did buisness and the owner shyed away, becaues he'd been doing things for 20 years that way...