New GNX.
#1
New GNX.
I have no problem with it being 4 doors. But it has to be AWD and OVER 300HP..
SLP Teases New 300HP Turbo V6 Buick Regal-Based GNX - StreetLegalTV
SLP Teases New 300HP Turbo V6 Buick Regal-Based GNX - StreetLegalTV
Many people were surprised by General Motor’s 2009 decision to axe four of its eight brands, especially the killing of Pontiac, the General’s “excitement” division. Equally confusing was the choice to salvage Buick, a brand that languished as its buying demographic got older and older. Some of us were skeptical that GM could bring Buick back from the nearly-dead, but they’ve done just that, infusing the entry-level luxury brand with some exciting and sharp-looking new models like the Regal GS.
There has been lots of talk about a revival of Buick’s last great muscle car, the turbocharged Grand National GNX. But while GM is keeping mum on the subject, Inside Line reports that aftermarket parts specialist SLP has announced their intentions of building a new GNX based on the turbocharged Buick Regal GS.
GM has gotten the ball rolling on the next Buick GNX with the Buick Regal GS, which uses a turbocharged 2.0 liter engine to crank out 270 horsepower. Respectable, to be sure (and just 6 horsepower shy of the original 1987 GNX’s turbocharged 6-banger) but these days it just isn’ enough.
Enter SLP, which is promising to push horsepower north of 300 ponies when they take a factory Regal GS and add their own special touch to it. SLP even provided the above rendering which will add some aggressive body features to an otherwise bland-looking four-door GS model. We’re excited to see what SLP delivers for a new generation of turbocharged Buick fans, and hopefully they’ll encourage GM to move forward with more performance Buicks down the road.
There has been lots of talk about a revival of Buick’s last great muscle car, the turbocharged Grand National GNX. But while GM is keeping mum on the subject, Inside Line reports that aftermarket parts specialist SLP has announced their intentions of building a new GNX based on the turbocharged Buick Regal GS.
GM has gotten the ball rolling on the next Buick GNX with the Buick Regal GS, which uses a turbocharged 2.0 liter engine to crank out 270 horsepower. Respectable, to be sure (and just 6 horsepower shy of the original 1987 GNX’s turbocharged 6-banger) but these days it just isn’ enough.
Enter SLP, which is promising to push horsepower north of 300 ponies when they take a factory Regal GS and add their own special touch to it. SLP even provided the above rendering which will add some aggressive body features to an otherwise bland-looking four-door GS model. We’re excited to see what SLP delivers for a new generation of turbocharged Buick fans, and hopefully they’ll encourage GM to move forward with more performance Buicks down the road.
#2
I have no problem with it being 4 doors. But it has to be AWD and OVER 300HP..
SLP Teases New 300HP Turbo V6 Buick Regal-Based GNX - StreetLegalTV
SLP Teases New 300HP Turbo V6 Buick Regal-Based GNX - StreetLegalTV
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#5
Re: New GNX.
We wouldn't need SLP to make a bull**** GNX by throwing an intake and exhaust on the GS if Buick had just given the GS some actual *****.
Come on Buick or GM or whoever, take the Camaro platform, give it a ~450hp turbo six, label as a Grand National, limit the production and price it accordingly. It would slot in nicely in the $45-50k range, and they would probably sell every last one they make. It would make a great halo car to generate traffic in Buick dealerships as well.
Come on Buick or GM or whoever, take the Camaro platform, give it a ~450hp turbo six, label as a Grand National, limit the production and price it accordingly. It would slot in nicely in the $45-50k range, and they would probably sell every last one they make. It would make a great halo car to generate traffic in Buick dealerships as well.
#6
Re: New GNX.
Didn't SLP make a ZL1 Camaro in '10? And why would they bother calling it a GN if they're only adding 30hp to a FWD vehicle? This sounds like lameness in the making. It better not have one piece of chrome on the exterior or I will stab a kitten.
-GN owner
-GN owner
#7
Re: New GNX.
The OP uses the term "V6" in the link. Do they plan to bring over the twin turbo 2.8L as used in the Opel (which many wanted to have here)? That engine was used in the SRX as well, albeit as a lower output version.
Are they really just upping the boost on the 2.0L, or are they doing an actual engine swap?
Are they really just upping the boost on the 2.0L, or are they doing an actual engine swap?
#8
We wouldn't need SLP to make a bull**** GNX by throwing an intake and exhaust on the GS if Buick had just given the GS some actual *****.
Come on Buick or GM or whoever, take the Camaro platform, give it a ~450hp turbo six, label as a Grand National, limit the production and price it accordingly. It would slot in nicely in the $45-50k range, and they would probably sell every last one they make. It would make a great halo car to generate traffic in Buick dealerships as well.
Come on Buick or GM or whoever, take the Camaro platform, give it a ~450hp turbo six, label as a Grand National, limit the production and price it accordingly. It would slot in nicely in the $45-50k range, and they would probably sell every last one they make. It would make a great halo car to generate traffic in Buick dealerships as well.
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#9
Re: New GNX.
The OP uses the term "V6" in the link. Do they plan to bring over the twin turbo 2.8L as used in the Opel (which many wanted to have here)? That engine was used in the SRX as well, albeit as a lower output version.
Are they really just upping the boost on the 2.0L, or are they doing an actual engine swap?
Are they really just upping the boost on the 2.0L, or are they doing an actual engine swap?
The turbo 2.8L is kind of a gas pig. I can't wait to see GMs turbo 3.0L V6 that should be out in about a year.
#10
Re: New GNX.
As for fuel economy, I don't imagine that is a big factor for SLP.
#12
Re: New GNX.
We wouldn't need SLP to make a bull**** GNX by throwing an intake and exhaust on the GS if Buick had just given the GS some actual *****.
Come on Buick or GM or whoever, take the Camaro platform, give it a ~450hp turbo six, label as a Grand National, limit the production and price it accordingly. It would slot in nicely in the $45-50k range, and they would probably sell every last one they make. It would make a great halo car to generate traffic in Buick dealerships as well.
Come on Buick or GM or whoever, take the Camaro platform, give it a ~450hp turbo six, label as a Grand National, limit the production and price it accordingly. It would slot in nicely in the $45-50k range, and they would probably sell every last one they make. It would make a great halo car to generate traffic in Buick dealerships as well.
1. The Grand National name is owned by NASCAR if I'm not mistaken. GM would have to pay a royalty. GM is not paying royalties on names anymore. That stopped with the death of the Trans Am (owned by SCCA I believe).
2. GM isn't going to develop anything else on the Camaro platform.... which is really a Holden VE platform.
3. GM isn't going to market a rear drive turbo V6.
4. If GM did spend the cash on creating a vehicle on based on Camaro, and certified a turbo V6 for it, the volume of sales for such a car would be so low that there is no way on earth they'd sell it in the $45K-$50K range and it be financially worthwhile, let alone worth the diversion of engineering and design resources. There is a fixed number of engineers and designers. They can either be kept busy on a rapid new vehicle schedule with more frequent redesigns, or they can be siphoned off to work on low volume, scarce profit programs. Guess which one's gonna lose.
5. Finally, guess which brand is one of the fastest growing brand in the United States? If you guessed Buick, you win. They seem to be doing well without a "Halo" car, it seems.
#13
Re: New GNX.
Not gonna happen.
1. The Grand National name is owned by NASCAR if I'm not mistaken. GM would have to pay a royalty. GM is not paying royalties on names anymore. That stopped with the death of the Trans Am (owned by SCCA I believe).
2. GM isn't going to develop anything else on the Camaro platform.... which is really a Holden VE platform.
3. GM isn't going to market a rear drive turbo V6.
4. If GM did spend the cash on creating a vehicle on based on Camaro, and certified a turbo V6 for it, the volume of sales for such a car would be so low that there is no way on earth they'd sell it in the $45K-$50K range and it be financially worthwhile, let alone worth the diversion of engineering and design resources. There is a fixed number of engineers and designers. They can either be kept busy on a rapid new vehicle schedule with more frequent redesigns, or they can be siphoned off to work on low volume, scarce profit programs. Guess which one's gonna lose.
5. Finally, guess which brand is one of the fastest growing brand in the United States? If you guessed Buick, you win. They seem to be doing well without a "Halo" car, it seems.
1. The Grand National name is owned by NASCAR if I'm not mistaken. GM would have to pay a royalty. GM is not paying royalties on names anymore. That stopped with the death of the Trans Am (owned by SCCA I believe).
2. GM isn't going to develop anything else on the Camaro platform.... which is really a Holden VE platform.
3. GM isn't going to market a rear drive turbo V6.
4. If GM did spend the cash on creating a vehicle on based on Camaro, and certified a turbo V6 for it, the volume of sales for such a car would be so low that there is no way on earth they'd sell it in the $45K-$50K range and it be financially worthwhile, let alone worth the diversion of engineering and design resources. There is a fixed number of engineers and designers. They can either be kept busy on a rapid new vehicle schedule with more frequent redesigns, or they can be siphoned off to work on low volume, scarce profit programs. Guess which one's gonna lose.
5. Finally, guess which brand is one of the fastest growing brand in the United States? If you guessed Buick, you win. They seem to be doing well without a "Halo" car, it seems.
#14
Re: New GNX.
The GNX was a RWD, full frame, 2-door sedan, and the value of those cars is still ridiculously high.
The Regal doesn't have the look, feel, configuration, or style that the original GNX had, not to mention, 'GNX' would be an awkward title since it's a Regal, and not a Grand National.
Just stating the obvious
I think there's a case to be made for Buick to produce a go-fast flagship car of sorts, and with their current goals, I think it looks more like a performance german sedan than it does a laid-back, boxy 2-door sedan.
The Regal doesn't have the look, feel, configuration, or style that the original GNX had, not to mention, 'GNX' would be an awkward title since it's a Regal, and not a Grand National.
Just stating the obvious
I think there's a case to be made for Buick to produce a go-fast flagship car of sorts, and with their current goals, I think it looks more like a performance german sedan than it does a laid-back, boxy 2-door sedan.
#15
Re: New GNX.
However.... I wouldn't quite exactly bet the farm that it's going to be a turbo V6, though.