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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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6 figure?? umm yea..put the pipe down..
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 12:11 AM
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here is a new idea for gm.... stop being retards and slapping the ss emblem on every tom dick and harry pos car... everything after the 4th gen camaro ss has been sorry. the silverado get crushed but the svt f-150s... the cobalt, monte carlo, impala, and the ssr... seriously where has chevy's heratige gone? who the hell puts an import "type r" on an american truck... all i am saying is someone up there needs to be but to death
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by indieaz
What you are describing could be the Aveo. If they would just stuff the 2.2l engine into it. Currently there is a 1:22.7 hp:weight ratio in the Aveo which isn't bad (i think my wife's Beetle has plenty of acceleration for what it is with a 1:24 ratio). But the 145hp 2.2l in that thing would be pretty cool for a simple little daily driver. I can't imagine it costing that much more to stuff the 2.2l into it. I suppose there could be tehcnical limitations ont he platform though.
2.0l turbo-6sd.
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 00cls1camaross
here is a new idea for gm.... stop being retards and slapping the ss emblem on every tom dick and harry pos car... everything after the 4th gen camaro ss has been sorry. the silverado get crushed but the svt f-150s... the cobalt, monte carlo, impala, and the ssr... seriously where has chevy's heratige gone? who the hell puts an import "type r" on an american truck... all i am saying is someone up there needs to be but to death

pretty sad when said POS cobalt will run rings arouns most SS made in the past..
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by NewbieWar
LA... it's a great place, and certain areas... Vettes are as common as aston martins, ferrari, a few lamberginis, v12 mercedes, Porsche, even a lotus every now and then, acura NSX's are pretty common.

At my college kids are driving these cars to school... common. GM there are really rich people who done care about price in this world... GM can make the executives sports car...

Sure these type of cars arent gonna hit annual sales of more then 4 figures if that... but obviously its worth it otherwise the H1 would not be in production (I am aware the millitary are good buyers of these vehicles and they are the reason Hummer is even alive)

GM needs some flag ships, some cars needing magazine anaylization. Dont let all the sales goto Europe.
Yeah, all the sales. How many of those high dollar cars sell a year? They are all hand built. Even in LA I seriously doubt that there are THAT many kids driving these cars. Thats not realistic at all. One super car in the GM lineup would be pleanty.
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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I agree that even if a 6-figure super high end supercar doesn't pay for its cost of development in sales/profits, it's worth it on sheer advertising value alone. Word of mouth, magazine tests, movies, TV shows, etc, etc... it generates a buzz that gets people talking about the brand as a whole moreso.

Even though the Camaro wasn't a supercar, it was still one of those 'buzz' cars, and thus even if GM was losing money on it I think it was a very dumb move to axe it from a publicity/marketing standpoint.
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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Maybe they thought the nameplate itself left a bad taste in people's mouths and if they put it on haitus people would see it as "all-new" as apposed to just freshly redesigned?
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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I've recently been thinking that Chevy/GMC needs a Colorado sized Avalance! Especially since the bed is so short on the crew cab models. If the back seat/bulkhead of a colorado folded flat it would all of a sudden wake up the Colorado to many more possibilities. Do it right with extra compartments (ala, ridgeline) and a little beefier engine and I think they would have an instant hit!
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by WERM
He's from LA. I think. That would explain it.


I'd like to see GM do a euro style hatchback with some punch and real handling. Like a GTI, except with quality. Maybe even a Diesel.

They could also probably do a nice "cheap" 4 passenger convertible. But they need something with some style. A Cobalt convertible would be pretty plain next to a Mini, PT Cruiser, or Beetle convertible.
Deffinatly, the Astra hatch should make it here as fast as Saturn can get it done. That could be a serious icon for compact buyers moving into a more Euro Saturn.

As for a cheap 4 passanger vert, Id like to see a Cobalt SS vert. I think Cobalt has plenty of style. Perhaps we will see that HHR Vert that I have heard a little bit about.

here is a new idea for gm.... stop being retards and slapping the ss emblem on every tom dick and harry pos car... everything after the 4th gen camaro ss has been sorry. the silverado get crushed but the svt f-150s... the cobalt, monte carlo, impala, and the ssr... seriously where has chevy's heratige gone? who the hell puts an import "type r" on an american truck... all i am saying is someone up there needs to be but to death
You cant be serious? Like someone said, I will bet you that the Cobalt SS could run around many SS cars of the 60's and 70's. I forgot that SS only means fast in a straight line, V8, RWD, 3600+lbs and up cars.
And what really seperates SS from Z28 for the 4th gens? A hood and exhaust? Wheels? A badge? Please.
And in the end, we all know that Z28 is King.
(here we go agaaaaaaaaain) *cues Benny Hill song*

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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by NewbieWar
You want to think about new car ideas?

Lets talk about role models/flagships instead of "ecconomical" pecies of crap.

I beleive every GM brand ought to have a role model...

Pontiac ought to have a 6 figure car that competes with lamborgini or Fararri
Cadillac ought to have a 6 or maybe 7 figure car that competes with rolls royce
Cadillac can also have another that competes with Fararri like the CIEN
Buick ought to have a 6 figure car made to compete with bentley
Hummer already is the leader in its 6 figure placement... no competition
Cheverolet, it doesnt need one its already got the Corvette, and its a value brand so it doesnt need to be 6 figures
Saturn, well a flag ship non the less, I say hybrids are kind of saturns image so maybe thats what they should go head to head with, 6 figure car that gets mild performance while shinning in green pants
Saab? competition for the new NSX? needs something to say "SAAB HAS STYLE, LUXUARY, AND PERFORMANCE" so probably 90k
GMC... ummm... GMC can make a really nice truck, the cadillac of trucks... Be an innovator

Look at how the Corvette is the dreams of many childern, a dream until a midlife crisis... GM could use more role models and more GOTTA have it cars... Cars that have industry leading styling and have the price appropriate for an exotic car. More less volume cars, make the streets more interesting to watch drive by rather then John Does Toyota Camry.

Get this man a spell checker. And put down the pipe.
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mr00jimbo
Maybe they thought the nameplate itself left a bad taste in people's mouths and if they put it on haitus people would see it as "all-new" as apposed to just freshly redesigned?
very good way of looking at it. giving a car "time off" gets it out of the mind of the casual car buyer and keeps the enthusiats salivating for more so when a nameplate is "returned", people like us will go nuts for it(if it's done right) and the casual buyer will see it aa a new model.


Originally Posted by Big Als Z
And in the end, we all know that Z28 is King.
(here we go agaaaaaaaaain) *cues Benny Hill song*
i think that might go in my sig. i'm going to hide under my desk now and wait til the bombs stop falling
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo96z28
what about the return of the vega??? cobalt size, RWD, V-8, 6-spd???
Vega's were pretty Badass back in the day, with the proper gear. My uncle had a pretty serious one, so I don't usually get in on the Vega Bashing. A V8 Vega with todays equipment (6 spd) would be pretty sweet, IMO, too.
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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BRING BACK THE VEGA!!! even if they just put in a turbo eco-tec or an sc 3800, i think it be cool for chevy to get a miata/s2000 fighter like pontiac and saturn are.
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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Re: New car ideas for GM to consider...

Originally Posted by 00cls1camaross
here is a new idea for gm.... stop being retards and slapping the ss emblem on every tom dick and harry pos car... everything after the 4th gen camaro ss has been sorry. the silverado get crushed but the svt f-150s... the cobalt, monte carlo, impala, and the ssr... seriously where has chevy's heratige gone? who the hell puts an import "type r" on an american truck... all i am saying is someone up there needs to be but to death
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo96z28
what about the return of the vega??? cobalt size, RWD, V-8, 6-spd???
I kinda like that idea!!



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