New Cadillac DTS
Re: New Cadillac DTS
Originally Posted by redzed
So what you're saying is that a top seller with huge profit margins should be allowed to wither away? GM seems to be very intent on killing the DTS's traditional segment. I suppose the logic is that its more profitable to sell 500 units/year of a $100,000 car than to sell 100,000 units/year of a $50,000 car.
The "new" DTS just goes to show how weak and uncompetitive GM's products are becoming.

The "new" DTS just goes to show how weak and uncompetitive GM's products are becoming.
I think giving a car that only has 2 years left this kind of upgrade (all new interior, new features, updated exterior) is a step in the right direction for GM.
Re: New Cadillac DTS
Originally Posted by Darth Xed
Are you a total idiot?
I feel you need to go hug a tree to make up for your conspicuous consumption. Do it now.
Last edited by PacerX; Feb 9, 2005 at 10:12 AM.
Re: New Cadillac DTS
Originally Posted by Darth Xed
Are you a total idiot?
Re: New Cadillac DTS
redzed, since the most direct (maybe only) true competitor for the DTS is the Lincoln Town Car, please explain to me again how it is uncompetitive...
Please.
Again, I am simply blown away by the fact that you seem to think the F-body and B-body were great GM achievements (not that I don't love them too), while anything they've made since they just gets automatically dismissed by you. It really does seem that either you are a middle/high school kid trolling, or you are just WAY too obsessed and bitter over the cancellation of two cars you liked.
*sigh*
Please.
Again, I am simply blown away by the fact that you seem to think the F-body and B-body were great GM achievements (not that I don't love them too), while anything they've made since they just gets automatically dismissed by you. It really does seem that either you are a middle/high school kid trolling, or you are just WAY too obsessed and bitter over the cancellation of two cars you liked.
*sigh*
Re: New Cadillac DTS
Originally Posted by redzed
Can someone explain how a facelifted car in its 7th YEAR
is supposed to be competitive?
is supposed to be competitive?Last edited by 30thZ286speed; Feb 9, 2005 at 12:13 PM.
Re: New Cadillac DTS
Sooo let me get this straight. When GM doesn't lead a segment in sales it's because the product is bad. When GM does lead a segment in sales, the product is bad and still uncompetitive.
Nice logic.
Nice logic.
Re: New Cadillac DTS
Originally Posted by PacerX
Too bad they killed night vision. I thought the idea was simply awesome, guess a lot of other folks didn't.
Re: New Cadillac DTS
Originally Posted by PacerX
Asking questions we already know the answer to is a waste of electrons and therefore bad for the environment. Please stop.
I feel you need to go hug a tree to make up for your conspicuous consumption. Do it now.
I feel you need to go hug a tree to make up for your conspicuous consumption. Do it now.
That's awesome! (See sig) You mind?
Re: New Cadillac DTS
Originally Posted by PacerX
Too bad they killed night vision. I thought the idea was simply awesome, guess a lot of other folks didn't.
Re: New Cadillac DTS
Originally Posted by 30thZ286speed
What....The current DeVille has been out since 2000 which makes it 5 years old. The past 5 years have been very successful for the DeVille. The '06 is a stop gag until RWD in '08. I think they did a pretty good job with the styling update to the nose and tail.
2. On the powertrain front, this 2006 DTS is pretty much the same a 1997 DeVille. Isn't 10 years an eternity when it comes to luxury cars? Ten years ago we still had the second generation Lexus LS400. By the time this creepy ole' Caddy is replaced, Lexus will be selling the 4th generation LS - the Lexus LS500.
3. There should have been a RWD DeVille replacement here already - not in calender year 2008 as you claim. (Personally, I don't see GM keeping that sort of timescale.)
Re: New Cadillac DTS
Originally Posted by 96_Camaro_B4C
redzed, since the most direct (maybe only) true competitor for the DTS is the Lincoln Town Car, please explain to me again how it is uncompetitive...
Please.
Please.
The Lincoln Town Car has degenerated into a pseudo-taxicab for the streets of New York. The only thing a black Town Car competes with is a yellow Crown Vic.
Originally Posted by 96_Camaro_B4C
Again, I am simply blown away by the fact that you seem to think the F-body and B-body were great GM achievements (not that I don't love them too), while anything they've made since they just gets automatically dismissed by you. It really does seem that either you are a middle/high school kid trolling, or you are just WAY too obsessed and bitter over the cancellation of two cars you liked.
*sigh*
*sigh*
My "dismissal" for the DTS isn't automatic. It comes as a result of GM's underinvestment and neglect of the vehicle line.


