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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 09:55 AM
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Still looks like a box that got folded the wrong way. Is it still going to have that POS 215hp V6 for $40K?
260HP for the 3.6L V6 for $31K

I'd assume the Sports Package is just and apperance Package, but who knows
Old Oct 29, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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Still looks like a box that got folded the wrong way. Is it still going to have that POS 215hp V6 for $40K?
I you want a stick, then yep, you still get the 3.2L engine for another year. By 2005 GM will offer the 3.6L with a manual tranny. Slushboxes get the 3.6 right away.
Old Oct 29, 2003 | 12:32 PM
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I'd assume the Sports Package is just and apperance Package, but who knows
It has a blown 300 hp 3.6 and all the other goodies.

I like that line up base 260 hp V6, sport package 300 hp S/C V6, and the 400 hp V8...................now just transfer those engines to the Camaro.
Old Oct 29, 2003 | 11:39 PM
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Am I the only one that cannot stand the CTS?
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:15 AM
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The black CTSv at the auto show was much better looking than this sport model imo...

The only real downfall of the CTSv is that it had these "bling bling" bright chrome grills that looked cheesy as hell; the car in the link had black grills...hmm...

I'm still no fan of the CTS, although its hard to argue with a 6spd and an LS6
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by SNEAKY NEIL
It has a blown 300 hp 3.6 and all the other goodies.

I like that line up base 260 hp V6, sport package 300 hp S/C V6, and the 400 hp V8...................now just transfer those engines to the Camaro.
That's actually a pretty damn good line up.
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by SNEAKY NEIL
It has a blown 300 hp 3.6 and all the other goodies.

I like that line up base 260 hp V6, sport package 300 hp S/C V6, and the 400 hp V8...................now just transfer those engines to the Camaro.
300HP isn't much out of a supercharged DOHC 3.6L, the N/A engine puts out 260HP, is it 3lbs. of boost?
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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300HP isn't much out of a supercharged DOHC 3.6L, the N/A engine puts out 260HP, is it 3lbs. of boost?
In the article I read the GM guy said the supercharged 3.6L put out 300HP and that it was 65 more than the N/A engine. That puts the N/A at 235HP. Makes more sense that way.
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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love the grill on the sport pkg much bette n the V-Series---the wing is okay----hate the wheels though.

Hope the V-Series is coming with the rims in all the other pics of it I have seen not these ones!
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by Joe K. 96 Zeee!!
In the article I read the GM guy said the supercharged 3.6L put out 300HP and that it was 65 more than the N/A engine. That puts the N/A at 235HP. Makes more sense that way.
First of all, I assume that these were from SEMA or something, because neither of those are production cars. That version of the CTS-V (in the pics) had non-stock wheels that, too me, look like crap (maybe the chrome doesn't show well in the pic). The caption of the picture even said "with accessories." The other car, the black "sport package", is also not a production car, though it does look pretty sinister in black with that spoiler. Not a fan of the wheels, though.

About the 300 hp s/c 3.6, well, that's why I'm assuming it's a SEMA concept. The N/A 3.6 has 255 - 260 hp, not 235. The base CTS motor (the 3.2 that comes in manual only) still makes 220 hp. I'm assuming that is a very low pressure s/c, because that's only 40 to 45 extra hp, and the engine can handle much more. 300 is probably a nice round number they chose for the concept intro.

Oh, and most of the CTS-V publicity shots have been of silver cars. That car will look really badass in black with the 18 inch wheels in front of those monster Brembos...
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by 96_Camaro_B4C
First of all, I assume that these were from SEMA or something, because neither of those are production cars. That version of the CTS-V (in the pics) had non-stock wheels that, too me, look like crap (maybe the chrome doesn't show well in the pic).
but is does have a chance to go into production. look at the GXP series from Pontiac. they were first shown at SEMA.

also, GM released a set of wheels to the press, i don;t think they have been mentioned on here, I will find the pictures.

EDIT

I found them, they were 20 rims for the Silverado. they showed like 8 or so, I'll just post one, and if you want to see more just search for it.

rims

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 04:18 PM
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but is does have a chance to go into production. look at the GXP series from Pontiac. they were first shown at SEMA.
Absolutely. I'm not saying they'd never make it (though I don't see a s/c HFV6 with only 300 hp as a reality; it could pretty easily hit 300 w/out s/c I'd guess). But the title of the thread is "...production car of 2004", so I was pointing out that these aren't quite production. Sure, you could buy the wheels and spoiler and make your CTS look just like that. That is kind of the whole point of SEMA; it is catering to the aftermarket, an area that OEMs are trying to get into (lots of $$$ to be made). Hence the line of wheels, etc, GM is releasing.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 07:36 PM
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That car just keeps getting better.
Just what I was thinking. Didn't really like them when they first came out, now I wish I was out of school so I could afford one.
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