Mustang success motivates GM’s engineers, Mark Reuss says
Mustang success motivates GM’s engineers, Mark Reuss says
Mustang success motivates GM’s engineers, Mark Reuss says
By Richard Truett
Automotive News / August 03, 2005
TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. -- The continued success of Ford’s red-hot Mustang is being noticed at General Motors. There has been talk reviving the Chevrolet Camaro as a competitor to Ford’s pony car.
Mark Reuss, GM’s executive director of vehicle architecture and Performance Division, says his engineers are looking to develop a low-cost rear-wheel drive platform that makes good business sense. Reuss spoke to staff reporter Richard Truett at the Management Briefing Seminars.
In light of the success of Ford’s new Mustang, has there been any rethinking of plans to bring back the Camaro or some other competitive car?
Yeah, absolutely. It’s not going unnoticed for sure. I think Ford did a great job with the Mustang, and you really have to look at it as a portfolio of cars. They have everything (in price) from the mid 20s up to 40s on that. They’ve done a nice job. And you have to pay attention to that. For many, many years it was SUVs and four doors. I think the market goes back and forth on a lot of this stuff. I think a coupe with a really great package is a great thing to have. The Pontiac GTO right now is filling our niche in the upper end of the Mustang portfolio. But as we go through time, we look at how do we participate?
The rear-wheel-drive program GM was working on, is it killed, frozen or just not on the front burner?
We would like to have a low-cost, rear-wheel platform in our portfolio, but business is very tough right now. You have to look at that and ask how do we do this on a very profitable basis? We have more brands than just the Ford brand. We are trying to make intelligent decisions on how you do a rear-wheel-drive platform for a couple more brands than a one-branded Ford deal. I think Ford has said the Mustang is the main brand but we are going to do Cobras and all these sub-brands that get us into the higher end. We are probably going to do things that have more brand exposure potentially on a low-cost, rear-drive architecture. Sometimes it gets a little dangerous, quite frankly, about who talks about what and what that person in the media writes about it. Like there is some sort of revelation that we are canceling something or starting something. Quite frankly this is a journey we are on all the time.
Does “low cost” rule out using the Cadillac CTS platform?
Well, I don’t know. If you look at the CTS, you have to look at the good things, such as the straight frame barrels on the front that are very efficient for crush and very stiff for vehicle dynamics. We have an short- and long-arm front suspension and a multi-link rear and those … inherently perform very, very well. There are some cost issues compared to a strut suspension. But the geometry and components that you have in a short- and long-arm architecture could change to make a low-cost rear-wheel-drive architecture. We also have aluminum components. We have some pretty expensive materials in there. There are a lot of different ways to get costs down. Right now we are trying to look at what the portfolio looks like for the next 20 years. What are the things we want to do with it? I don’t think the know-how is lacking. It’s specifically, what do we want to do with it over the next 10 years and then making an efficient business decision to address those needs.
Is the CTS a good size to launch other vehicles off?
We have two different widths, one for rear-wheel drive, one for all-wheel drive. We’ve got a long wheelbase version for China. So there’s a lot of wheelbase flexibility there.
Since the Holden Monaro is going out of production, is there pressure to come up with the next rear-wheel-drive architecture?
It’s not really an initiative as much as it is part of doing the business. We are looking at this stuff all the time. When we are ready to make decisions around what we are going to do there it is going to be a lot of where we want to put the car performance-wise, price-wise and brand-wise. Then we will go from there. That’s kind of how we are approaching it. This is an ongoing thing.
What makes the Pontiac Solstice so special that buyers are lining up for it?
The soul of this car is four-cylinder, 20,000 bucks and low-volume.
How would a GXP version of the Solstice be configured, with a supercharger?
Probably not. If wanted to do something we probably would look more globally on how we want to charge the engine. We could use a turbocharger.
What else is the Performance Division working on?
We are actually doing some things for mainline vehicles, such as uplevel engines and with packaging and execution, things we have not been asked to do in the past. I’m launching the Cadillac XLR-V and STS-V, and Chevrolet Trailblazer SS right now. We are spending a lot of time on those launches making sure those cars are right.
Beyond the engines in the XLR-V and STS-V, will the performance division get any engines out of the new Performance Build Center, where engines are made by hand?
Oh yeah, I think so.
By Richard Truett
Automotive News / August 03, 2005
TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. -- The continued success of Ford’s red-hot Mustang is being noticed at General Motors. There has been talk reviving the Chevrolet Camaro as a competitor to Ford’s pony car.
Mark Reuss, GM’s executive director of vehicle architecture and Performance Division, says his engineers are looking to develop a low-cost rear-wheel drive platform that makes good business sense. Reuss spoke to staff reporter Richard Truett at the Management Briefing Seminars.
In light of the success of Ford’s new Mustang, has there been any rethinking of plans to bring back the Camaro or some other competitive car?
Yeah, absolutely. It’s not going unnoticed for sure. I think Ford did a great job with the Mustang, and you really have to look at it as a portfolio of cars. They have everything (in price) from the mid 20s up to 40s on that. They’ve done a nice job. And you have to pay attention to that. For many, many years it was SUVs and four doors. I think the market goes back and forth on a lot of this stuff. I think a coupe with a really great package is a great thing to have. The Pontiac GTO right now is filling our niche in the upper end of the Mustang portfolio. But as we go through time, we look at how do we participate?
The rear-wheel-drive program GM was working on, is it killed, frozen or just not on the front burner?
We would like to have a low-cost, rear-wheel platform in our portfolio, but business is very tough right now. You have to look at that and ask how do we do this on a very profitable basis? We have more brands than just the Ford brand. We are trying to make intelligent decisions on how you do a rear-wheel-drive platform for a couple more brands than a one-branded Ford deal. I think Ford has said the Mustang is the main brand but we are going to do Cobras and all these sub-brands that get us into the higher end. We are probably going to do things that have more brand exposure potentially on a low-cost, rear-drive architecture. Sometimes it gets a little dangerous, quite frankly, about who talks about what and what that person in the media writes about it. Like there is some sort of revelation that we are canceling something or starting something. Quite frankly this is a journey we are on all the time.
Does “low cost” rule out using the Cadillac CTS platform?
Well, I don’t know. If you look at the CTS, you have to look at the good things, such as the straight frame barrels on the front that are very efficient for crush and very stiff for vehicle dynamics. We have an short- and long-arm front suspension and a multi-link rear and those … inherently perform very, very well. There are some cost issues compared to a strut suspension. But the geometry and components that you have in a short- and long-arm architecture could change to make a low-cost rear-wheel-drive architecture. We also have aluminum components. We have some pretty expensive materials in there. There are a lot of different ways to get costs down. Right now we are trying to look at what the portfolio looks like for the next 20 years. What are the things we want to do with it? I don’t think the know-how is lacking. It’s specifically, what do we want to do with it over the next 10 years and then making an efficient business decision to address those needs.
Is the CTS a good size to launch other vehicles off?
We have two different widths, one for rear-wheel drive, one for all-wheel drive. We’ve got a long wheelbase version for China. So there’s a lot of wheelbase flexibility there.
Since the Holden Monaro is going out of production, is there pressure to come up with the next rear-wheel-drive architecture?
It’s not really an initiative as much as it is part of doing the business. We are looking at this stuff all the time. When we are ready to make decisions around what we are going to do there it is going to be a lot of where we want to put the car performance-wise, price-wise and brand-wise. Then we will go from there. That’s kind of how we are approaching it. This is an ongoing thing.
What makes the Pontiac Solstice so special that buyers are lining up for it?
The soul of this car is four-cylinder, 20,000 bucks and low-volume.
How would a GXP version of the Solstice be configured, with a supercharger?
Probably not. If wanted to do something we probably would look more globally on how we want to charge the engine. We could use a turbocharger.
What else is the Performance Division working on?
We are actually doing some things for mainline vehicles, such as uplevel engines and with packaging and execution, things we have not been asked to do in the past. I’m launching the Cadillac XLR-V and STS-V, and Chevrolet Trailblazer SS right now. We are spending a lot of time on those launches making sure those cars are right.
Beyond the engines in the XLR-V and STS-V, will the performance division get any engines out of the new Performance Build Center, where engines are made by hand?
Oh yeah, I think so.
Re: Mustang success motivates GM’s engineers, Mark Reuss says
So, if a magician uses misdirection to fool his/her audience, what would you call GM's tactics?
no-direction? un-direction? anti-direction?
It's good to see these articles, interviews, etc.... but I'm listening to the martian
no-direction? un-direction? anti-direction?
It's good to see these articles, interviews, etc.... but I'm listening to the martian
Re: Mustang success motivates GM’s engineers, Mark Reuss says
Originally Posted by WJH'sFormula
So, if a magician uses misdirection to fool his/her audience, what would you call GM's tactics?
no-direction? un-direction? anti-direction?
It's good to see these articles, interviews, etc.... but I'm listening to the martian

no-direction? un-direction? anti-direction?
It's good to see these articles, interviews, etc.... but I'm listening to the martian

He carefully said nothing to contradict Red.
Originally Posted by falchulk
He carefully said nothing

That was my point. The on the record stuff is hot, it's cold, it's saying something, it's saying nothing......... I think the average teenage girl's emotions have more direction than GM's official statesments revolving around RWD cars and more specifically, our beloved F-car.
Re: Mustang success motivates GM’s engineers, Mark Reuss says
How would a GXP version of the Solstice be configured, with a supercharger?
Probably not. If wanted to do something we probably would look more globally on how we want to charge the engine. We could use a turbocharger.
Could? There are pictures that say you ARE.
I look at that above question, and then grade the other statements. We have all seen the turbo Solstice, so questions like "What about Simga?" and others start to make sence.
Probably not. If wanted to do something we probably would look more globally on how we want to charge the engine. We could use a turbocharger.
Could? There are pictures that say you ARE.
I look at that above question, and then grade the other statements. We have all seen the turbo Solstice, so questions like "What about Simga?" and others start to make sence.
Re: Mustang success motivates GM’s engineers, Mark Reuss says
The interviewer at least hit him up with some pretty solid questions. I think that every one he asked would have been one I would have asked him if I ever had the chance.
Re: Mustang success motivates GM’s engineers, Mark Reuss says
I love and support GM but I am very thankful for Scott. Were it not for him, the only thing we would be getting from GM would be "we are analyzing this and looking into that". I find this so frustrating when I know what this company is capable of. It would be very depressing around here without the RP. I guess the argument could be made that if the Mustang wasn't as successful as it has been it is very possible that we would be left without a Camaro.
I distinctly remember Scott telling me that ultimately no matter what, the success of the Mustang is a GOOD thing for us.
I distinctly remember Scott telling me that ultimately no matter what, the success of the Mustang is a GOOD thing for us.
Last edited by gmcvt; Aug 4, 2005 at 03:52 PM.
Re: Mustang success motivates GM’s engineers, Mark Reuss says
i think, no matter how you look at it, this article had some very good news for the informed. i will now be taking applications to join my "church of mars".
Re: Mustang success motivates GM’s engineers, Mark Reuss says
GMspeak 101:
If they say they are looking at it, they are working on it.
If they say they are working on it, it's being fine tuned.
If they speak in the press about somthing they have to do, or need to do, it's already done.
If they say something isn't approved, it simply means the approval for tooling, vendors, etc... hasn't been signed off on.
When they say it's approved, they already have things in motion and half of Detroit already knows about it.
..... end of class.
If they say they are looking at it, they are working on it.
If they say they are working on it, it's being fine tuned.
If they speak in the press about somthing they have to do, or need to do, it's already done.
If they say something isn't approved, it simply means the approval for tooling, vendors, etc... hasn't been signed off on.
When they say it's approved, they already have things in motion and half of Detroit already knows about it.
..... end of class.
Re: Mustang success motivates GM’s engineers, Mark Reuss says
Originally Posted by guionM
GMspeak 101:
If they say they are looking at it, they are working on it.
If they say they are working on it, it's being fine tuned.
If they speak in the press about somthing they have to do, or need to do, it's already done.
If they say something isn't approved, it simply means the approval for tooling, vendors, etc... hasn't been signed off on.
When they say it's approved, they already have things in motion and half of Detroit already knows about it.
..... end of class.
If they say they are looking at it, they are working on it.
If they say they are working on it, it's being fine tuned.
If they speak in the press about somthing they have to do, or need to do, it's already done.
If they say something isn't approved, it simply means the approval for tooling, vendors, etc... hasn't been signed off on.
When they say it's approved, they already have things in motion and half of Detroit already knows about it.
..... end of class.

Please explain to me what all this means in time.
From the post about possiblyseeing a Camaro in 2009+. That is, quite frankly, a HUGE smack in the face. They have had BEFORE 2002 to start thinking about this car. GM knew 2002 was the last year well before the last car rolled off the line. They should have been looking into this. From what I can tell, they have drug their feet on this issue, and will need a car well before 2009, if they want my next purchase to be a GM. Otherwise, I am taking my money elsewhere. Sorry about the rant, but have faith, and give us a decade to get your Camaro are two different things IMHO.
Re: Mustang success motivates GM’s engineers, Mark Reuss says
Originally Posted by guionM
GMspeak 101:
If they say they are looking at it, they are working on it.
If they say they are working on it, it's being fine tuned.
If they speak in the press about somthing they have to do, or need to do, it's already done.
If they say something isn't approved, it simply means the approval for tooling, vendors, etc... hasn't been signed off on.
When they say it's approved, they already have things in motion and half of Detroit already knows about it.
..... end of class.
If they say they are looking at it, they are working on it.
If they say they are working on it, it's being fine tuned.
If they speak in the press about somthing they have to do, or need to do, it's already done.
If they say something isn't approved, it simply means the approval for tooling, vendors, etc... hasn't been signed off on.
When they say it's approved, they already have things in motion and half of Detroit already knows about it.
..... end of class.

But...
He is speaking about having to do it
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