I'm not saying the Camaro will be Challenger big. But I suspect it will weight around 3800lbs and big bigger than a Mustang.

 

I haven't seen anything to this point that suggests a more robust curb weight or size than a comparable Mustang. Guess we'll just wait and see.

 

I'd bet the '09 Mustang re-do is also going to add some weight. As RP said in another post, 5 star side impact will be considered a given. And new rollover and other impact standards will add even more weight.

I fear all this. I fear one day we will look back on the '04-'06 GTO and wax on about how lightweight cars used to be.

 

Good lord, between this and the 'newbie' thread I need a stiff drink.

 

Some very interesting Challenger early sketches and clay.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...leId=108756#11

I remember those Super Bee rumors a year ago....scroll halfway down.

 

Great find Charlie! Thanks for posting it man. I am so excited about this coming auto show, I never thought I would get a chance to watch the re-introduction of two of my all time favorite cars, Camaro and Challenger. Now, all we need is a Superbee or GTX .


James

 

The more I see it, the more I like it. It appears that Chrysler already has a hit with the Challenger. Can GM do the same with the Camaro will be the big question.

I see that the designer owns an F-body.

 

That Super Bee sketch has definate Charger influence as do the line sketches.

 

I think he's also building a '67 pro touring Camaro.

 

Damn. We would have had a 'Cuda if Plymouth was still around.

 

If the Charger can be a 4 door, isn't the precedence set that a Berricuda can be a Dodge?

 

I don't know Tim.

I can tell you that for me, the '70 'Cuda (the '70 SPECIFICALLY), is a close second to the Camaro, as one of the cars that influenced me greatly, at a very young age. (Thank God the 70 1/2 split bumper Z/28 came out the same year...or I could have been converted into a full on Mopar guy/kid for good...right then and there.). But it was a Plymouth Barracuda.
In fact as a kid I found all the Plymouths MUCH cooler than their corresponding Dodge's. Challenger was waaaaaaaaay down the pecking order compared to 'Cuda for me. Plymouth Duster was way cooler to me than Dodge Demon...and so on.

It's interesting to read that story though, and see the pics in the background on the video.....and put all that together with some of the rumors of the past few years.

A couple of years ago, there were rumors that a coupe concept was spotted with a 'Cuda emblem on it. Well, the story confirms that a 'Cuda was considered.

About a year and a half ago, there were some rumors about a coupe called Super Bee. Well, there's the sketch.

The other big rumor was that a "Challenger" concept would have appeared at the '04 SEMA show. It would have been a small 2+2 coupe with a "six pack"...which was interpreted as some sort of HO V6...maybe turbocharged. Wonder what happened to that?

Anyway, looks like there's enough coupe concept drawings in the background to make at least one more coupe.

 

Speaking of Six Pack, I heard Chrysler recently re-applied for the patent on 440-six pack. Not sure what it might mean, but it could be fun to speculate

 

Patent or Copyright?

 

My bad, I do mean copyright.