Email myself or Charlie, I'll be at the Detroit and Chicago shows.

 

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Looks sweet! I really like that car. Hope the weight is not as high as they claim, but nonetheless I will own one.

 

I really like the looks of that car. The only big negative I see (other then it weight) is that the stereo is built-into the dash like most new cars these days.

Im still a fan of the single-din type stereo so you can upgrade on your own or when the factory stereo dies.

When those built-in factory units go down (and they will eventually) its going to cost alot to repair or replace. Ford was smart to keep the Mustang with a single-din Stereo IMHO.

Regardless, that a small nickpicking problem that otherwise gets overrided by a very cool new car.

 

OK, I need to say this:

This is NOT a ponycar.....
This is NOT a ponycar.......
This is NOT a ponycar........

I just needed to wrap my head around that. This a full sized car, a teeny bit larger than the 300C.

I still like it's looks, but what we have here is the modern day equivalent of a Polara hardtop.....not a direct Mustang/Camaro competitor.

If our Camaro comes in at the right size and weight, it'll make our little coupe seem even sweeter. I've got my fingers crossed.

 

Since the Mustang is only 8 inches shorter than the 300C, wouldn't that make the Mustang a mid-sized car?

If pony cars had been downsized the way full sized sedans have been downsized since the 1970's, shouldn't a modern day pony car be about 165 inches?

 

I just can't see a muscle cars to be of RX-8 dimensions and weight. That's what most of us hope for (including myself) but those cars can only comfortably accomodate short to medium sized frames... with very little luggage space

 

8" is a substantial difference, don't you think? BTW, according to IntelleChoice It's 9.2" shorter than 300C.
Anyway, I'm on record as one of those who feels that Mustang went alittle too big this time around, if that makes any difference.

Whatever ponycar sizes should be, (and I think the SN95 size is about perfect)....the Challeger certainly far exceeds that limit.

 

Personally, a car that can hold two adults and three small framed passengers in back is just what I need. I haven't been out on a cruise with my family since summer of 2000. After that our family grew to five people and now we only travel together in either the Jeep or the minivan. A Challenger that can hold five passengers would be very very welcome and a whole lot easier to sell to the family.

 

I wouldn't mind the extra size. I rented the Mustang and felt it was a bit cramped for my family of four. The Challenger may be just the ticket for me. It's definately not a pony car...if it rides like the GTO I'd be happy. Just hope they offer an R/T for under $30,000.

 

The new Challenger looks pretty cool, but it's far too big and heavy for my tastes ...

 

For me, the size of the Challenger is actually one of it's strengths. I want a car that seats five comfortably, still has some gittyup and allows me to row my own. Although I think 4100 lbs is a tad excessive on the weight side (and I still think that the listed weight seems too heavy), the size, powetrain and overall look , at least for my needs, far outweigh her portliness (c'mon, you didn't expect me to call my girl fat did you ). The only deal breakers for me with this car would be, lack of manual transmission and a significant change in looks from the concept/pre-pro model. (according to Bob Sheaves over at AllPar ((a retired Chrysler engineer)), the Challenger appears to be a preproduction model).

 

I'll be present at that GTG for sure too! Good times!

 

I've always said that if I could buy a 300C/Magnum/Charger with a 6 speed manual, that's what I would buy. A full sized, 5 passenger, 4 door sedan, with a stick and V8 fulfills my daily driver requirements.

I suppose the Challenger is that full sized, 5 passenger, 4 door sedan.....but minus 2 doors. Well, I guess that would fill my needs as well. But let's have no misconceptions, this is a full sized car in the same vein as a '60's Polara , Galaxie or Impala hardtop, and not in the same class as Camaro or Mustang.