A GTO with the same wheelbase as a Camaro, would essentially be a restyled Pontiac Camaro. I see ZERO point to that - if you're going to build a Firebird, might as well just call it that.

As far as a GTO goes, it's possible that one could be built off of an extended wheelbase Camaro structure, or possibly even a two door version of a Zeta sedan.

Many possiblilities exist. But first, before any of that, GM must decide if it wants a GTO in it's product portfolio. And right now they haven't.

 

I wouldn't think so as Torana is essentially a segment smaller than Holden's largest sedan, which is what Monaro is traditionally based on. In short, Torana is Torana and Monaro is a 2 door Holden [Commodore]. But I won't pretend that I know the answer as Mike Simcoe has always hinted that Monaro won't be like Monaro of old (i.e. coupe version of Commodore)... I assume this means that it will be based on GTO this time around... but I don't want to speculate too hard and make an *** of myself!

What I'm wondering is whether we in Oz will get Camaro??? It seems plausable at this stage that we'll get a version of the Pontiac GTO, but in such a small market, I can't see how Holden can offer both Monaro (GTO) and Camaro?

 

I dont think that Oz will get Camaro. Maybe imported along side Corvettes, but if Holden gets there Monaro, I dont think that Camaro will have that kind of a draw.

 

But lets remember people didn't think that the 300C would eat into the larg lux sales like it has. It is the highest selling large car in the country I believe, and it is imported and more expensive to boot.

 

You're closer to the action down there than I am up here. Had you asked me that question 6-12 months ago, I would have said that a Camaro or a rebadged/restyled Camaro had a pretty high likelihood of coming to Australia as a "Monaro replacement". But now I'm not so sure. Some public comments from Holden recently, combined with other info, indicate that that's not the direction Holden may want to go.

As far as a GTO goes, the last time I checked, (which was pretty recently), there was no one working on a GTO in NA. And I don't mean 'no one' with a wink and a nod, like the Camaro was before it became official, I mean NO ONE. I'd like to join the bandwagon with everyone else here, and say it's coming soon - but I can't. Like I said in the other post, I'm not sure that GM has even decided that it wants one in the Pontiac product portfolio. Once/if that decision is made, all sorts of things can happen.

So unless you've got SOLID inside info that Holden is CURRENTLY working on a Monaro/GTO down there, I wouldn't expect a GTO anytime soon.

 

Just thinking out loud, but i thought one of the features of the NA RWD chassis was that you could alter not only wheelbase, but also firewall to front axle length as well. So what if camaro was a long hood short wheelbase, with it's inherently smaller backseat, and GTO has a shorter hood on the same wheelbase to add a few inches of interior space?

 

I'm so confused.

 

Sounds like cab forward.

Changing dash to axle length is not as easy as advertized.

 

An article appeared in the media some time ago quoting Holden's MD, Denny Mooney, being in favour of bringing Camaro over here wearing the Chevrolet badge (instead of Holden) with a competitive pricetag... but the vibe I'm getting here atm is that the Camaro for Oz will not happen.

I hope I'm wrong but considering the market is just too small for one V8 Holden coupe, let alone two V8 Holden coupes, I very much doubt that it will happen even if the cars will be imported from Canada, with more favourable economies of scale.

Sorry to sidetrack but the main reason why I contribute to this forum, apart from the mature and insightful discussion on all things GM, is to glean info about what I would hope will be my future ride. But it seems a forlorn hope right now.

 

I thought it was.

Modular.

Not like the previous generations where you took a unibody hull and bolted different appearing fender skins and doors.

I thought that was the whole genious idea behind the new RWD platform was so it could have massively different heights and lengths and widths but be made in the same places and sharing some of the same parts?

 

Changing an already set dash to axle length, requires considerable re-engineering. In addition to the obvious things, it also will change crash performance and vehicle dynamics. It's not plug and play. The Camaro's front of dash structure, for example, will be essentially all new and all re-engineered.

Zeta does have some flex, similar to GM's other flexible modern platforms, like Epsilon. Within certain parameters you can flex wheelbase and overall lengths, but you can't do "massive" differences.