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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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In a way, same goes for the Impy. The new ones are so blocky and squared in the front - I don't see how they are able to move that much air around them?
You should check one out in person. Pictures are decieving.
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by guesswhoo
That should read "5.4L Expedition"

(Shame on you Proud! You know better!)

You are right. I knew what they meant, and still typed it in wrong while copying the numbers.

Trust me... if Ford popped a 5.4 into an Explorer ALL the boards would come alive!

Interesting thought though, eh?
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by graham
You should check one out in person. Pictures are decieving.
Last Friday morning, I rode behind, beside, and in front of a brand new Impy while on I-85 from Lexington to Charlotte, NC. We were running about 75-80 for a god 20-30 minutes. Lady driving, dark grey car, with grey interior, alloys. Most stiking thing IMO was the height of the front grill and hoodline... it seemed a bit taller than the 89 LX 5.0 I was in, and I know the trunk was higher no doubt.

I realize the lines are smooth, but when you look at a true front profile, the car appears a bit taller and more blocky - which is what the air has to move around. Just my opinion though.
Nevermind the aerodynamics - the new profile and design should be very beneficial to field of vision, seating posture/position, step-over, and general ride comfort. I think the freshening is a welcomed change to the car.
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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Re: Michigan State Police cop car shootout results.

Originally Posted by ProudPony
I realize the lines are smooth, but when you look at a true front profile, the car appears a bit taller and more blocky - which is what the air has to move around. Just my opinion though.
You can't judge aerodynamics by simply eyeballing something. Case-in-point, 4th Gen F-bodies look like they were made to slice through air with ease. 300C's look like brick walls. The 4th Gen Camaro had a Cd of .34, while the 300C has a Cd of .36

I much prefer lower, sleeker and more curvy lines in front. But the front end on the new Mustang also appears tall, blocky and woefully inefficient at moving air at high speeds...doesn't mean it is.
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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Re: Michigan State Police cop car shootout results.

Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
You can't judge aerodynamics by simply eyeballing something. Case-in-point, 4th Gen F-bodies look like they were made to slice through air with ease. 300C's look like brick walls. The 4th Gen Camaro had a Cd of .34, while the 300C has a Cd of .36

I much prefer lower, sleeker and more curvy lines in front. But the front end on the new Mustang also appears tall, blocky and woefully inefficient at moving air at high speeds...doesn't mean it is.
0.36 for the 300? That is the drag coefficient of the new GMT900 Tahoe!
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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Re: Michigan State Police cop car shootout results.

Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
You can't judge aerodynamics by simply eyeballing something. Case-in-point, 4th Gen F-bodies look like they were made to slice through air with ease. 300C's look like brick walls. The 4th Gen Camaro had a Cd of .34, while the 300C has a Cd of .36

I much prefer lower, sleeker and more curvy lines in front. But the front end on the new Mustang also appears tall, blocky and woefully inefficient at moving air at high speeds...doesn't mean it is.
Agreed - the eye doesn't tell the whole story when it comes to aero.

As for the Mustang... it IS a brick. Cd is terrible. The honeycombs in the grill were closed off to force air over and around the car to make it more stable at higher speeds. Hau T-T admits in a press release that the car was made for looks and concessions were made to keep those looks - drag being one of them.

The whole Impy thing is just my opinion - that's all I ever said.
It's no biggy!
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 96_Camaro_B4C
0.36 for the 300? That is the drag coefficient of the new GMT900 Tahoe!
Now THAT'S impressive!
Old Sep 29, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Would like to see how the Dakota compares. Local Sd has 3 of them.
Old Sep 29, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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Re: Michigan State Police cop car shootout results.

Originally Posted by ProudPony
Last Friday morning, I rode behind, beside, and in front of a brand new Impy while on I-85 from Lexington to Charlotte, NC. We were running about 75-80 for a god 20-30 minutes. Lady driving, dark grey car, with grey interior, alloys. Most stiking thing IMO was the height of the front grill and hoodline... it seemed a bit taller than the 89 LX 5.0 I was in, and I know the trunk was higher no doubt.

I realize the lines are smooth, but when you look at a true front profile, the car appears a bit taller and more blocky - which is what the air has to move around. Just my opinion though.
Nevermind the aerodynamics - the new profile and design should be very beneficial to field of vision, seating posture/position, step-over, and general ride comfort. I think the freshening is a welcomed change to the car.
I've got a '83 LX hatch in the driveway and had an impy for over a vear ('01) and I wouldnt doubt the sedan is taller. The new ones too. I just though blocky was a lil over-par, but hey that's what opinions are all about!
Old Sep 29, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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Re: Michigan State Police cop car shootout results.

Originally Posted by graham
I've got a '83 LX hatch in the driveway and had an impy for over a vear ('01) and I wouldnt doubt the sedan is taller. The new ones too. I just though blocky was a lil over-par, but hey that's what opinions are all about!
I've driven many Impys in the last few years as rentals - an 05 most recently in PA. They are nice cars overall - I am far more impressed with them than I thought I would be.

Don't exactly get to ckeck top-end speed in a rental car these days though.
(Though Hertz let you have at it in a 1966 Shelby GT350H back when!)

Can't wait 'til Avis puts me in a new one for a spin....
Old Sep 29, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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Re: Michigan State Police cop car shootout results.

I think it's a good thing the manufacturers are NOT putting their hottest motors in police vehicles.

With choppers and radio, the need for high speed pursuits is over. Just radio ahead and lay out the spikes.

Cops waste more gas than I can imagine, tearing off at 3/4 throttle from every light. Openly flouting speed limits. And just driving plain recklessly.. because they can.

V6 mid size sedans are just right for the job they need to do.
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