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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Re: Maybe this is why GM isn't embracing diesels?

Hmm....2,500 people surveyed huh? Assuming this online poll was on the WSJ website, that means that anyone who voted had a subscription to enter their website.

Sounds like a pretty weak sample.

If this public can be sold on FWD cars, I think selling it on rock solid dependability and outstanding fuel economy in this day in age would be fish in a barrel.

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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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My wife and I just picked up our 06 Jetta diesel a month ago. It has the 6spd DSG transmission, which I have to say is extremely impressive. The car has only ~2K miles on it and the lowest MPG on a tank was 41 (I did calculate this and didn't rely on the in car display). My wife does the typical stop and go traffic to work in the morning. We have seen a high of 49 on a long distance highway trip. It also has plenty of acceleration. I would recommend the car to everyone looking for great mileage and nicely built car. I know people claim VW has a bad track record, but our previous 02 Passat had only a single problem with the faulty coil packs, otherwise it was a great car until we traded it in.

I'm sold on diesel, and would love to see GM develop some diesel motors. The current Duramax is an awesome motor. It would be nice to see a smaller diesel in the 1/2ton pickups and all of the SUV's. Passenger cars would be good to, it would give me more options next time.

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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 06:58 AM
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Re: Maybe this is why GM isn't embracing diesels?

Originally Posted by Clean97Z
It would be nice to see a smaller diesel in the 1/2ton pickups and all of the SUV's. Passenger cars would be good to, it would give me more options next time.
You should be pleased at the Duramax V6 offering and the passenger car V8 diesel and 3.9 V6 diesel GM is bringing out.
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
You should be pleased at the Duramax V6 offering and the passenger car V8 diesel and 3.9 V6 diesel GM is bringing out.
To clarify, three distinct diesels?

Duramax V6 (assuming 1/2 ton truck and SUV offering)
Passenger car V8 (wow!)
Passenger car 3.9 V6 (wow again)

Assuming the V8 will displace more than the V6, the V8 diesel would be offered in large sedans maybe?

The 3.9 V6 if it's the bottom end of the diesel offerings seems rather large displacement if it's intended to be used in mid to small size sedans. Not complaining just unexpected.

Any hints as to where these motors will be assembled?
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Derek M
To clarify, three distinct diesels?

Duramax V6 (assuming 1/2 ton truck and SUV offering)
Confirmed by Hudson as a 4.9 V6 version built by Duramax to be used in 1500s.
Passenger car V8 (wow!)
Unconfirmed by any insiders. Just posted on here from MT, I think. Charlie posted it in the thread about a V8 Diesel Impala.
Passenger car 3.9 V6 (wow again)
Actually my bad 2.9 L V6.

Any hints as to where these motors will be assembled?
I expect the Duramax V6 will be built along side the current Duramax V8. The 2.9 could be built anywhere from Holden to Europe. I expect this is a Euro designed engine and not an Izusu but I could be wrong. These low sulfur deisel rules are going to rock it the price of admission is kept in check.
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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Re: Maybe this is why GM isn't embracing diesels?

I would consider a diesel if I could get diesel fuel anywhere. There are only two stations I know of in the parts of Kansas City I live and work in that offer diesel (one just switched to 80/20 Biodiesel). That's not enough. I don't want to plan fillups days in advance. Hopefully this will improve once low sulphur diesel is phased in. I would much prefer a diesel to a hybrid.
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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I will be very pleased if GM comes through with a couple of diesel options. The 1/2 ton should have had a smaller diesel years ago. I would also bet it would be a huge seller since most truck buyers seem to love diesels but can't always pony up for the 3/4 ton. It would be nice to pull 25mpg out of a full size pickup. My father in-laws 3/4 ton duramax averages ~20mpg in mixed driving, so it may not be to far off.
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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I was out an about today, beautiful day here in michigan. I've been doing some research on gm diesel lately( i need a truck) and have been noticing the trucks more and more. I'm sitting in the left turn lane(windows down) and I see a crew cab 8 foot bed silverado(exactly what i want) that is going to come by me. I see the diesel tag and as he is coming at me I can't hear it. I clicked the radio off and could just barely hear it as it went by. Holy quite diesel. For me, I would need an exhaust to make it louder but diesel trucks have come a long way because I didn't even get that typical diesel fumes.

But from seeing them go buy the duramax is the quietest, then cummins then powerjunk.

I hope GM gives us a diesel option for most cars and trucks. It's a good idea.
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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Re: Maybe this is why GM isn't embracing diesels?

Originally Posted by Eric77TA
I would consider a diesel if I could get diesel fuel anywhere. There are only two stations I know of in the parts of Kansas City I live and work in that offer diesel (one just switched to 80/20 Biodiesel). That's not enough. I don't want to plan fillups days in advance. Hopefully this will improve once low sulphur diesel is phased in. I would much prefer a diesel to a hybrid.
Here in Texas, practically every station has diesel.
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by HAZ-Matt
Here in Texas, practically every station has diesel.
I'd imagine that's because y'all are the truck capital of the U.S. There are quite a few here, but not every other vehicle on the road. I believe you're among the top F-Body states as well. I see a new ad campaign:

Texas: Come for Plentiful Deisel Fuel. Stay for the Camaros!
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by HAZ-Matt
Here in Texas, practically every station has diesel.
8 out of 10 in KY will have Deisel as well.
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