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Man , is chevy gonna sell ALOT of cobalts . I drove one today .

Old Dec 9, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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Re: Man , is chevy gonna sell ALOT of cobalts . I drove one today .

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While you might spend a whole day haggling I spent about two hour from start to finish and I even haggled the dealer down an extra $600 (Saturn delaers can be haggled even though they are not supposed to do) as well as the standard 0% financing for 5 years with a bonus $1500 rebate.
1. I actually left the dealership after my morning "session," allowing the general manager to marinate in his own juices. By late afternoon, they still hadn't sold a single vehicle all day....

...so they were more willing to agree to my (un)reasonable offer.

2. I wouldn't have still bought the Armada if there hadn't been a rebate - which was just "gravy" in the end. If Nissan hadn't bungled the launch and marketing of the Armada, I might have willingly paid full MSRP.[/QUOTE]


Originally Posted by johnsocal
Even if I didnt buy a Saturn I would no way have wasted a whole day haggling I would just find out what invoice was on a particular vehicle I wanted and fax over my offer to 2-3 different dealer's lease-managers (bypassing salesperson and their commision) and I would get the deal I wanted even before I would step one foot on the the showroom floor.
The "fax the manager" routine is something that's been in my family since the '80s. I never even visited my Chevrolet dealer until after I'd ordered my Z28. This time around I took the hands on approach because I was buying off the lot. The fax routine doesn't work as well with inventory vehicles. With an inventory vehicle you have to look it over in person to make sure you aren't buying a 10-month old demo with tons of miles, door dings and a million tiny scratches from an automatic carwash.

Of course, when it came time to buy I'd already done my "ultra-high performance" test drive at another dealer. I was ready to deal and I could have a deal done in a half-hour if I hadn't held out. Man, that was fun.
Old Dec 9, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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Re: Man , is chevy gonna sell ALOT of cobalts . I drove one today .

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Of course, when it came time to buy I'd already done my "ultra-high performance" test drive at another dealer. I was ready to deal and I could have a deal done in a half-hour if I hadn't held out. Man, that was fun.
Really dude, nobody thinks you're cool for how you're OMG SUPER COOL I WRECK CARS TAHT AREN'T MINE LOL. That really only impresses people in the 10th grade.
Old Dec 10, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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Re: Man , is chevy gonna sell ALOT of cobalts . I drove one today .

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Really dude, nobody thinks you're cool for how you're OMG SUPER COOL I WRECK CARS TAHT AREN'T MINE LOL. That really only impresses people in the 10th grade.
1. Putting a car "through its paces" doesn't involve a "wreck." The purpose of a test drive is to "see what the thing can do." A test drive should be fully under the control of prospective buyer - it shouldn't be just another a selling opportunity for a sleazebag salesperson.

2. You put a car "you don't own" to the acid test because (1) it's too late to change you mind once you've signed on the dotted line and (2) the car is owned by a car dealership, not you. Do you feel that YOU are less worthy...or less moral...or less deserving...or less honest...than a CAR DEALER? I would hope not.

3. Remember, car salesman, dealership managers and owners are far harder on "demonstrators" than you would be with you own car.

4. Don't buy at the same dealership where you test drive. Go to the worst, most evil franchise in the area to do your test drive. Don't buy the unit you drove, don't do a credit application, just push them to see how far you can go.

Figure out what you want and what you want to pay, then go to the dealership where you plan to buy.
Old Dec 10, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by redzed
1. Putting a car "through its paces" doesn't involve a "wreck." The purpose of a test drive is to "see what the thing can do." A test drive should be fully under the control of prospective buyer - it shouldn't be just another a selling opportunity for a sleazebag salesperson.

2. You put a car "you don't own" to the acid test because (1) it's too late to change you mind once you've signed on the dotted line and (2) the car is owned by a car dealership, not you. Do you feel that YOU are less worthy...or less moral...or less deserving...or less honest...than a CAR DEALER? I would hope not.

3. Remember, car salesman, dealership managers and owners are far harder on "demonstrators" than you would be with you own car.

4. Don't buy at the same dealership where you test drive. Go to the worst, most evil franchise in the area to do your test drive. Don't buy the unit you drove, don't do a credit application, just push them to see how far you can go.

Figure out what you want and what you want to pay, then go to the dealership where you plan to buy.
Your views/opinions on this matter are completely asinine and immoral. That fact that you feel that you are special, and should do your best to thrash a car knowing that you are not going to purchase it, and feel that it's OK because the dealership owns it is insane.

Not only have you done possible deterioration to vehicle that somebody may purchase in the future, but you have potentially caused the unsuspecting salesman a lot of money by completely wasting their time. Those guys don't get paid by the hour, and you could have prevented them from helping someone whom was actually interested in purchasing a vehicle from them. That's OK though, right, because you wouldn't mind somebody not only making you work for free, but possibly lose money. Maybe it's just OK because it's the other guy.

You definitely are not as smart and witty as you appear to think you are. Other people realize that they can do these things too. The difference is they have morals.
Old Dec 10, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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Re: Man , is chevy gonna sell ALOT of cobalts . I drove one today .

I've yet to see one in person (outside of autoshow), but the pics of the SS coupe looked really good. I was mostly impressed with the interior.

A major improvement over the cavvy, and a nice much-needed addition to chevy's car lineup . It will do well for them.
Old Dec 10, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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Re: Man , is chevy gonna sell ALOT of cobalts . I drove one today .

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I've yet to see one in person (outside of autoshow), but the pics of the SS coupe looked really good. I was mostly impressed with the interior.

A major improvement over the cavvy, and a nice much-needed addition to chevy's car lineup . It will do well for them.
What's stupid is that GM is only advertising the SS coupe. While that is a great car, not everyone is looking for a sporty coupe. The sedan is an aswesome car, and people woulld flock to these, if anyone knows their there.

GM has the worst marketing programs of any company.
Old Dec 10, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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Re: Man , is chevy gonna sell ALOT of cobalts . I drove one today .

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What's stupid is that GM is only advertising the SS coupe. While that is a great car, not everyone is looking for a sporty coupe. The sedan is an aswesome car, and people woulld flock to these, if anyone knows their there.

GM has the worst marketing programs of any company.
Geez, the car is just reaching dealerships! The Cavalier sold pretty damn well (albeit with incentives) without a huge advertising budget. When was the last time you saw a Cavalier commercial? I'd guess we'll see plenty of print ads for both versions pretty soon.
Old Dec 10, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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Re: Man , is chevy gonna sell ALOT of cobalts . I drove one today .

Originally Posted by 96_Camaro_B4C
Geez, the car is just reaching dealerships! The Cavalier sold pretty damn well (albeit with incentives) without a huge advertising budget. When was the last time you saw a Cavalier commercial? I'd guess we'll see plenty of print ads for both versions pretty soon.
True, they just arrived, but the sedans came before the coupes, yet there are no ads for it.

Everybody knows what a Cavalier is, and I think having them in peoples memory, and not showing pictures in TV is better for it's sales.

It's just that nobody knows there is a sedan. I've been pretty upset with GMs advertising for quite awhile now anyway, so it's easy for them to make me upset.
Old Dec 10, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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Re: Man , is chevy gonna sell ALOT of cobalts . I drove one today .

Originally Posted by 96_Camaro_B4C
Geez, the car is just reaching dealerships! The Cavalier sold pretty damn well (albeit with incentives) without a huge advertising budget. .
Thankfully the Cobalt should need them . The car I drove was one hell of a car for the $142xx that was on the window sticker . Ive since looked at a totally loaded LT with aluminum dash trim , white guages with LED back lighting , leather , ect ect and the sticker on it was below $17500 , I dont remember the exact # .
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