The Kappa platform......
Originally posted by Meccadeth
Its not a true american car until its produced in america, where its supplying U.S. jobs.
Its not a true american car until its produced in america, where its supplying U.S. jobs.
Needless to say there is no clear answer (if factoring in where this part came from or where this car is produced and whose labor is producing it). Only thing left to stand behind is origin/ownership of the actual company doing the manufacturing. The auto industry is a global business and that isn't going to change.
If I buy a Pontiac I'm going to accept that it's American. If people from a foreign land can gain citizenship in the US, I'm going to say a car can too (especially if its parents already lived here).
Originally posted by jrp4uc
Not that your response was pointed at me, but by that logic isn't a Honda manufactured in Ohio by U.S. workers an American car--a true American car even, by your definition.
Needless to say there is no clear answer (if factoring in where this part came from or where this car is produced and whose labor is producing it). Only thing left to stand behind is origin/ownership of the actual company doing the manufacturing. The auto industry is a global business and that isn't going to change.
If I buy a Pontiac I'm going to accept that it's American. If people from a foreign land can gain citizenship in the US, I'm going to say a car can too (especially if its parents already lived here).
Not that your response was pointed at me, but by that logic isn't a Honda manufactured in Ohio by U.S. workers an American car--a true American car even, by your definition.
Needless to say there is no clear answer (if factoring in where this part came from or where this car is produced and whose labor is producing it). Only thing left to stand behind is origin/ownership of the actual company doing the manufacturing. The auto industry is a global business and that isn't going to change.
If I buy a Pontiac I'm going to accept that it's American. If people from a foreign land can gain citizenship in the US, I'm going to say a car can too (especially if its parents already lived here).
Originally posted by Meccadeth
Ignorant nationalists are one thing...I'm not a real nationalist, I don't really pay attention to where stuff is made when I buy it like I should...but just because a car is going to be called a "Pontiac" doesn't mean that its not actually an import. It didn't mention where the platform would be produced in that article, so who is that guy to say its a true "american" car ?? Its not a true american car until its produced in america, where its supplying U.S. jobs.
Maybe your the ignorant one?
Ignorant nationalists are one thing...I'm not a real nationalist, I don't really pay attention to where stuff is made when I buy it like I should...but just because a car is going to be called a "Pontiac" doesn't mean that its not actually an import. It didn't mention where the platform would be produced in that article, so who is that guy to say its a true "american" car ?? Its not a true american car until its produced in america, where its supplying U.S. jobs.
Maybe your the ignorant one?
btw, not caring if something i say or do offends anyone would make me callous which is not the same as ignorant.
Last edited by morb|d; Sep 19, 2003 at 04:56 AM.
Originally posted by morb|d
i think you're confused maybe? because you seem to be disagreeing with me and supporting my point at the same time.
btw, not caring if something i say or do offends anyone would make me callous which is not the same as ignorant.
i think you're confused maybe? because you seem to be disagreeing with me and supporting my point at the same time.
btw, not caring if something i say or do offends anyone would make me callous which is not the same as ignorant.
Anyway, this is officially a hijack now, sorry... I'm very glad to hear that this chassis is going to be produced. I'll be one of the first in line for a Pontiac Solstice (or whatever the production name) if it still looks like the concept somewhat.
Originally posted by Z284ever
SAAB = Turbos at GM.
If GM had not purchased SAAB, I don't believe turbos would currently have a bright future at GM.
SAAB engineers really know turbos.....and they are bringing this expertise to the GM powertrain party.
SAAB = Turbos at GM.
If GM had not purchased SAAB, I don't believe turbos would currently have a bright future at GM.
SAAB engineers really know turbos.....and they are bringing this expertise to the GM powertrain party.
What about Subaru?
They know a thing or two about turbos.
Originally posted by Jackass
What about Subaru?
They know a thing or two about turbos.
What about Subaru?
They know a thing or two about turbos.
For the most part Subaru is concerned about Subarus. They do their own thing, independent of GM.
SAAB on the other hand is a GM company....all future models are based on GM platforms. And they're powertrain engineers are fully integrated into GM Powertrain.
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