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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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Can we just get this closed since it has turned into the Special Olympics?
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PacerX
Ummm....

Referring to yourself in the third person that often is almost as disturbing as referring to your nuts.
Just wait till he starts referring to his nuts in the third person!

Sorry couldn't resist.

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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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Pacer, way to prove the point. I spent quite a bit of time doing the research on the camparison for you. Supposedly you didn't have enough time to discuss that matter, yet you've had time to continue the anti-Threxx discussion in more than one thread! Amazing.

PS - laws are almost never written in the first person. Guess you haven't noticed that before?

Originally Posted by Chris 96 WS6
What is more plausible Threxx...that everybody here has joined in a mass conspiracy to discredit and abuse you by taking everything you say out of context and generally ganging up on you...

or...

That the reactions you get from the overwhelming majority of people here are somehow a reflection of what you dish out?
The reactions I get are a reflection of what I dish out. Devil's advocate lines of thought. I say things nobody else has said or will say. In a forum full of people so proud and defensive of GM that seems to gather a relatively unified reaction - and when one person sees the next reacting a certain way, they join in. Hence the term 'circle jerk'... it's human nature when everyone else is doing something - whether it's praising GM, or bashing those who don't - human nature tends to make the easier or obvious course of action to join in.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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Pacer, way to prove the point. I spent quite a bit of time doing the research on the camparison for you. Supposedly you didn't have enough time to discuss that matter, yet you've had time to continue the anti-Threxx discussion in more than one thread! Amazing.
"Anti-Threxx"... there's another one.

Don't get all butthurt, Cupcake. If I was flaming you, you'd know it - I'm not.

Research takes time, and making witty responses comes easily to me. I'll get to it tonight.

Besides, who cares if the general population around here does or doesn't like you? There are people I've personally met here, and I care about their opinions of me... to a point.

My "E-personality" is just that - a much more strident representation of who I really am. If folks don't like it... meh... I ain't losing any sleep.

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PS - laws are almost never written in the first person. Guess you haven't noticed that before?
I am unaware of any laws in this nation written specifically in reference to a particular person.

Equal protection clause.

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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PacerX
My "E-personality" is just that - a much more strident representation of who I really am. If folks don't like it... meh... I ain't losing any sleep.
I'm not losing sleep over it either - I guess I just try too hard to clarify my intentions as they tend to be so easily dismissed and/or vilified due to their 'against the grain of the forum's population' nature. Oh well.

Maybe I should just start telling everyone I hate GM, and that I'm an *******. The first one is completely untrue and the second depends on my mood, but it'd keep discussion from automatically heading that direction in every other thread.

Then again I don't know how I'd explain my apparent hatred for GM when I've got a next-gen CTS and Vette in the driveway.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Then again I don't know how I'd explain my apparent hatred for GM when I've got a next-gen CTS and Vette in the driveway.
Passive-aggressive behavior?
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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I am unaware of any laws in this nation written specifically in reference to a particular person.
You can think of contracts as small-scale laws - laws applied on a person by person basis rather than applied to a group of people based on geography, or whatnot. Those will almost always (if well written), state the person's name, even if the person who's name is being stated, is the one writing the darn thing.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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You can think of contracts as small-scale laws - laws applied on a person by person basis rather than applied to a group of people based on geography, or whatnot. Those will almost always (if well written), state the person's name, even if the person who's name is being stated, is the one writing the darn thing.
Let's not make this a COMPLETE thread hijack, but contracts and laws are two very significantly different things.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Threxx
The reactions I get are a reflection of what I dish out. Devil's advocate lines of thought. I say things nobody else has said or will say. In a forum full of people so proud and defensive of GM that seems to gather a relatively unified reaction - and when one person sees the next reacting a certain way, they join in. Hence the term 'circle jerk'... it's human nature when everyone else is doing something - whether it's praising GM, or bashing those who don't - human nature tends to make the easier or obvious course of action to join in.
Not to join in on the "anti-Threxx" stuff, so don't take offense, but I don't think you are the only person who will criticize GM in this forum. I see comments and criticism (sometimes constructive, sometimes just dumb or mean, and sometimes just wrong) in various threads by various posters fairly regularly. You are probably one of the more visible members to do it (or at least you do it more often than many others), but you are not the only one.

It kinda seems (at least to me) a little arrogant and/or overdramatic to act like you are the lone fish of reason in this pond, where ALL the other fish only walk the GM line and dare not criticize or speak out of turn about the mothership... Does that make sense?

Old Jul 17, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Yup...

People in this section have been doing it for years - in fact it's typically people from this section spilling over into the lounge that do so in there. But we know that's rare since AN/FVD people tend to like to stick together in this one area (and the 5th gen section, now, too)

The rules of the future vehicle section for Threxx and only Threxx are:

-All of Threxx's opinions are subject to being picked apart word by word. Sometimes even word by (insert implied word here) by word. Threxx must be willing and fully capable of objectively explaining every one of his opinions, even though opinions often times can't be objectified... this is no excuse for Threxx.

-When Threxx praises a GM product, everyone will ignore the praise, and pretend like it was never spoken so that they can continue to act like Threxx is truely anti-GM no matter what GM does right or wrong.

-Threxx must be completely objective and show absolutely no bias or else not only will his opinion be flamed, but he will be flamed for having a non GM-biased opinion on a primarily GM-biased forum.

-In the event that Threxx makes a good point or asks a valid question that hasn't been asked before, it is the responsibility of one of the primary members to completely ignore said point or question and instead focus on one potentially inconsistant detail of Threxx's post and make some form of sarcastic, loaded, or 'aside' commentary about it in an attempt to bait Threxx and completely derail any actual valuable discussion that was occurring in the thread.

-Always read into what Threxx is saying. Threxx is the enemy and everything he says has a hidden agenda to slam GM. For example: if he makes positive commentary with a couple of suggested points of improvement, you must act as though he stated those points of improvement were the bane of the vehicle itself. Taking Threxx's words out of context and out of proportion is necessary to unveil his secret message that Toyota pays him to convey.

-When Threxx argues incessantly, it's because he's cocky and arrogant and never wants to admit he's wrong. this has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he's forced to carry on one long continous arguement with about 10 or so people in a single thread.

-The forum would be better off without Threxx because disscenting opinions never accomplish anything. If everybody just agreed discussions would be infinitely more fruitful and accurate in nature.

Here be the Threxx laws. Unspoken until now, but agreed to none the less.


.... or at leats that's what it feels like.

Here's a thought...Don't like it? ****ing leave.

More drama than Shakespeare, you belong in the lounge.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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Re: It'd be nice to see Buick...

Originally Posted by Jerry Springer
Here's a thought...Don't like it? ****ing leave.

More drama than Shakespeare, you belong in the lounge.
How about on your show?
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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So, did we ever figure out which reader - Threxx or PacerX - is smarter than one half or the other of the 800,000 people that buy an Impala or Camry each year? I'm dying to know if either one has somehow exposed a deep flaw in our free-market system, but shockingly enough, I see two vehicles that are both similarly but not identically equipped, priced very competitively with each other and the rest of the segment, and that both sell in roughly equal numbers. Amazing how this "capitalism" thing works, eh?
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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Re: It'd be nice to see Buick...

Originally Posted by 96_Camaro_B4C
It kinda seems (at least to me) a little arrogant and/or overdramatic to act like you are the lone fish of reason in this pond, where ALL the other fish only walk the GM line and dare not criticize or speak out of turn about the mothership... Does that make sense?
Sums things up nicely for me...thanks.

By the way, when judging the true "value" of Impala, you usually needed to figure in the discounts/rebates you got when purchasing an Impala, instead of comparing it to Camry MSRP to MSRP. Funny thing is, I believe (though not sure) Impala has needed less incentives on it lately to hold its sales volume.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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So, did we ever figure out which reader - Threxx or PacerX - is smarter than one half or the other of the 800,000 people that buy an Impala or Camry each year? I'm dying to know if either one has somehow exposed a deep flaw in our free-market system, but shockingly enough, I see two vehicles that are both similarly but not identically equipped, priced very competitively with each other and the rest of the segment, and that both sell in roughly equal numbers. Amazing how this "capitalism" thing works, eh?
Whelp, I wasn't the one that flat-out stated that one 'solidy out-values' the other in the early stages of this thread....
In my comparisons I found them to be relatively comparable - with the differences coming down to general preferences and marketing - and part of the free market is marketing, which is the not so objective factor in the 'free market'.


Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
By the way, when judging the true "value" of Impala, you usually needed to figure in the discounts/rebates you got when purchasing an Impala, instead of comparing it to Camry MSRP to MSRP. Funny thing is, I believe (though not sure) Impala has needed less incentives on it lately to hold its sales volume.
You might have noticed very early on I mentioned the current rebate on the Impala as well as the invoice to msrp disparity between the two vehicles (which is significantly different and makes up for most of the Impala's 2000 dollar, assuming you can get the Camry for at or near invoice and assuming the same about Impala).



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