....and NOT be last!

Is it asking too much for the 5th gen Z/28 to be benchmarked against the 350Z? I know we got's the HP, but handling, etc..???

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I owned a 96 Z28, and now an 03 350Z. They produce similar performance numbers (LT-1 vs 350Z), but living with each on a daily basis is a different story. The quality of my 96 was poor, the interior was not pleasant to look at, or comfortable, squeeks/rattles, ect. These are some issues that need to be solved in the 5th gen in order to compete with the competition.

 

There is absolutely no question that a new Camaro needs to be a modern, well design and well built machine. Interior pieces must fit together well, and fuction properly. (ie. no more power window motors failing every 20,000 miles. no more ill-fitting plastic trim pieces such as the power window/lock bezel.)

The end of the F-Platform is a good thing from this standpoint. It's time to move away from a creaky base structure that is over 20 years old and notorious for providing gobs of flex.

 

I just want the 5th gen to run with current 03-04 Cobra's.... N/A! The 06 Cobra will be maybe just otta reach.....
Although the C6 should handle that easily...

 

HOLY **** !!!!!! My heart is racing. That was awesome Doug.

 

From a hotrodding stand point I welcome the idea of a supercharger (I don't see it happening). A $100 pulley on a GTP is worth at least 20hp and if I'm not mistaken on the Cobra/Lighting a pulley swap is worth even more.

 

I definately feel that one of the Camaro models, which I won't specify which for fear of arguement, should be a road racer type. It should have a smaller V-8, (302 maybe) and be setup for handling ect. Then there should be the dragstrip monster (not that the other shouldn't be able to handle the GT mustang). Cobras might have to be left for the Corvette, since that is what Ford is trying to make them compete against. You don't want a $37k Camaro.

 

I think the next gen will cost at least that much. Look at all the su.... er... I mean people that paid that much for the 4th gens. Fact is that Fords S/C Cobra loaded costs a few thousand less than an SS with all the options, and will whip the **** out of an SS in every catagory. So it will definitely cost more than the 4th gen if GM wants the 5th to compete with the Cobra.

 

How many 4th Gen's do you think ran $37k?

A loaded SS stcikered around $32k... now, you could have tacked on a ton of SLP add-ons, but those are are very very rare, almost never sat on a dealer lot (had to order them), and are very much the exception and not the rule.

I would guess a potential 2007 Camaro to start at $19-$21k for the base, and go up to $35k-ish for a totally loaded top-of-the-line car.

 

I'm sorry but name one person who payed high 30's for thier SS? I think you are about 10k too high there.

 

A good friend of mine was looking for an SS last year (April) all the ones that he saw were over 35K. I don't think they were that rare. Even the older SS avg'ed over 33k. I've even see a few verts at 40+.

 

A friend of mine ordered an 02 with everything you can possibly get. (even the engine block heater) THe only option he didn't get was one of the suspension packages and it stickered for 38 something. I think the dealer knocked off like 1200 bucks. A stripped Z28 with just the SS appearence package was like 27 something.

 

I don't know what to say other than you are just wrong.

I base 2002 Z28 stickered around the mid $23k's.

As for the high 30 and low 40 SS's, that could only be done with every SLP add-on like, Center Mount Exhaust and all that, which is very very very very very rare. Most SS's had little or no SLP add-ons, the most common beign the couple hundred dollar SS grille... pushing a factory-loaded SS to around $32,500 or so.

You are just incorrect in your pricing.

 

Right off the top of my head...I can easily think of 3 or 4 that I personally know.

In fact, I can't think of anyone that I know that spent less than low30's for a 2000 and up SS.

 

I noticed this for the 2002 model year. When I was looking for a car in 2001 Camaros and Firebirds were significantly less. I went with my friend on one occasion to a dealer before he ordered his car and looked at a couple SS's and I couldn't believe what I saw all the SS's were priced at 35k or more. I remember the 40 thousand + convertable that I saw and my jaw dropped. There still is a new Z28 vert at this dealership in my area and it has all the options on it and the sticker is 34k if I remember correctly. I don't think the 37k SS is rare.