It'll be no surprise when a 5.3 V8 appears in the 5th gen as midlevel engine.

It is common knowledge that the LS4 will be in the 310 hp range. But there are rumors of a hotter version....one with 325-350 hp.

Sounds to me, like this one will give the next car, LS1 performance. And if rumors are true that the "300 hp" Mustang GT is dynoing at 280-290 hp at the wheels...it will need that performance.

What does everyone think. How well will a 5.3 Camaro perform?

 

IIRC, the lower level 327 or whatever will either be an option for the RS with a modified version available in the SS only, or both will only be offered in the SS as 2 choices. (leaving the RS/Base with only a V6 or V6's) Either way, I guess a 3,400lb weight and low-mid 13's for the high level SS (LS1 area) and high 13's-low 14's for the lower level SS or RS version. (LT1 and L98 area) This sounds good coming from alot less ci than all those engines have. But gearing and certain options could send the times lower. By 07/08 I would probably expect them to be! Then I would hope the Z28 comes out with 400/450 HP (remember we're talking 07/08 here and maybe even later for the Z28) to compete with the top models of each company along with the next Z06 and top GTO.

 

again...where are these "dyno" numbers? Untill they are in production, we wont know how true Ford is to its word.
I would say that GM would aim to make the mid level 5.3 out-dol the Mustang GT just for braging rights. They have come a long way just to post 2nd place to the Stang. Ford has made its move, now its GM's turn to kick it up a notch.

 

I don't know how accurate *all* of the cars are, but I keep an eye out here . The numbers seem pretty real. Of course you won't see any future Mustang GT in there yet but just wait

 

I'm not sure how I feel about the 5.3 as the top motor for a year or 2. It doesn't seem to be enough. I hate when models come out without a full lineup, even though I know it happens often. Who knows by then what cars will be able to compete with it, not even counting the Mustang.

When the 4th gen came out, nothing could touch it except for the Vette and a few models that were twice th price. Now, who knows! Now, it seems that the Camaro is moving down in performance, even though it probably won't. One reason for this is the size of the motor moving down in size. If the new Camaro only equals an "old" LS1 Camaro, then what will people think? If Chevy just makes the car to be able to compete with the base Mustang GT, then I think that will be a problem. There is sure to be a special edition Mustang out at that time and if that can smoke a brand new Camaro SS, then that is pretty sad and will definatly take a lot of the wind out of the sails of the new Camaro.

I have to say that the more I hear about the new Camaro, the less excited I get. I am still holding on to some hope though.

 

3v 5.3L would be great.

If the 5.3 gets LS6 heads/cam it should kick 4.6L @ss

405hp/5.7L = 71hp/L , 71*5.3 = 376HP

 

This is pretty rhetorical, isn't it, Z284ever? We've both been personally assured by 'the man' that any Z28 (or Camaro) must outperform anything else in it's competative catagory.

By '07 or '08, I'd like to see the nid engine around 330-340 hp tho, or around 310-320 hp but which amazing fuel economy.

 

How is a 5.3L motor with last gen heads supposed to come within 25hp of the latest state of the art GM motor, the 6.0L LS2?

 

Nobody is saying that Camaro will only compete with Mustang GT. Camaro's "base" V8 may compete with GT.

And just because the rumor mill says that Chevy will holdback a Z/28 package for a year or two after rollout...doesn't mean that Camaro will be introduced with 5.3 as it's only V8.

 

The don't need last Gen heads, just heads/cam with the same specs.

If A 5.7 can do 405HP a 5.3L should have no problem with 375hp.

The LS2 is more powerful than the LS6 arcoss just about all the RPM range, also the LS2 is rumored to be closer to 430HP (just like in the SS concept)

 

I realize that but how much hp are they going to get from the 5.3..........probably around 320-330 right? I am just saying that it seems kinda weak for the new Camaro to burst on the scene and return with........... performance levels equal to the car that went out over 5 years earlier and for more money too (even though in adjusted dollars it probably won't be much more). Do you see my point? The car sould wow the world, not be introduced with something that can just stay ahead of a the lowely Mustang GT. Before anyone says something, I know there is more to a car than performance numbers but it has to do these well, and better than the next guy for the car to really be noticed.

If the Camaro does have another V8 at introduction, it won't be any bigger correct? As I understand it, the 5.7 is gone which leaves the 4.8 or the 6.0. If it won't get the 6.0 until the Z28 is released, then the SS will be the "top dog" at the time with a 5.3.

 

I see your point. I think it is valid....

It's like Chevy saying:

"HERE'S OUR NEW 2008 CAMARO! The best performance model will actually come close to matching the performance we brought to you with the old Camaro back in 1998!"

 

Hmmm, I see your point too now....

It's like saying that since the 'Stang now matches the then Camaro's performance (or at least hp numbers) 3 years after the car went away, the Camaro doesn't really need to up the ante (too much if at all) to still outperform it.

This would be akin to putting a glorified truck's rear suspension on a modern sports car becuase there is no longer any direct compeition.

 

What are you basing this on?

Help me out here, please... Why a 5.3 as a mid level engine in what verified 5th gen car?

 

I'd say that's incorrect.